Tottenham - what gives?

From: patch10 Aug 2011 08:44
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 202 of 298

That was meant to be a reply to you about Drew, but it's too early for me to hit the right link.

 

I was trying to say that he knows about the disaffected youth, despite coming from a small rural village. Not even very funny. I'll stop now.

From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)10 Aug 2011 08:46
To: patch 203 of 298
Ah right, in light of Drew's occasional tendencies to display "gangsta"-inspired behaviour. No, I get it, just wasn't awake enough to get it without help. Bruv.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)10 Aug 2011 09:11
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 204 of 298

You're not the only one who considers Drew's opinions to be of limited merit given that it's not his house/livelihood being destroyed or family terrified by thugs.

 

Having said that, I'm sitting here in Switzerland, so 'yay' me.

From: koswix10 Aug 2011 09:46
To: JonCooper 205 of 298
We were talking about that last night, and remembered the "civil unrest" exception clause in most policies :-/
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)10 Aug 2011 09:51
To: koswix 206 of 298

That's alright, any enterprise other than the little mom'n'pop shops that go under will pass on any uninsured costs in higher prices. So no one wins, no one loses. Some people may lose their jobs.

 

And these loons 'making a point against big enterprise' are making what point in the end?

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 10:30
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 207 of 298
Don't be a fuckwit. I can't have a valid opinion until it's happened to me?

You can't have an opinion on what the rioters are doing until you've lived their lives, then.
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)10 Aug 2011 10:49
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 208 of 298

Ooh, escalation!

 

I would say that I live closer to the participants and have more exposure to their environment than you do.

 

(yay! fight!)

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 11:12
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 209 of 298
Then you would indeed be a fuckwit.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)10 Aug 2011 11:49
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 210 of 298

Neither can you though. While some of the rioters may have just cause for dissatisfaction (but not anarchy), I suspect that some (unknown percentage) of them are just in it for the 'laughs'.

 

But in good news I heard (not confirmed) that Jamie Oliver's restaurant got done over, so there's a silver lining after all.

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 11:55
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 211 of 298

You seem to have missed the point somewhere in my clever web of sarcasm.

 

I believe that we humans, being imaginative and communicative creatures, are perfectly capable of understanding, as far as one can do so, the experiences of others with just a little effort, empathy and compassion.

 

I've also said several times that I'm sure the majority of rioters are in it 'for the laughs' as you put it, but this is beside the point. If people feel so disconnected from and disaffected with their society/community that they can behave like this then there's a problem... is all I'm saying.

EDITED: 10 Aug 2011 11:55 by X3N0PH0N
From: JonCooper10 Aug 2011 12:01
To: koswix 212 of 298
see, I see that as part of the overall problem

we should all have insurance, but quite often when you need it you find it's not valid for whatever has happened

so I sit thinking "the man" screwed me again

I am a quiet, overweight, middle-aged man living in a very rural out-of-the-way place and I feel that most of those deemed to be in authority in some way have and continue to screw me over on a regular basis

banks - PITA
government - PITA
council - PITA
police - PITA

etc ~ so I can only begin to imagine how people in the cities who are affected by all that much more often and on a larger scale than me must feel
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:03
To: JonCooper 213 of 298
quote:
so I can only begin to imagine how people in the cities who are affected by all that much more often and on a larger scale than me must feel


Not according to Serg you can't.
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)10 Aug 2011 12:09
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 214 of 298
I was being a hypothetical cunt, don't actually label me as one.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)10 Aug 2011 12:12
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 215 of 298
I agree with what you say here, and thank you for summarising your argument to something that my attention span can deal with.
If people feel so disconnected from and disaffected with their society/community that they can behave like this then there's a problem... is all I'm saying.

You're damned right there's a problem, but I think that the problem lies in society as a whole. Parents who don't give a shit, lack of respect for others, booze mentality; the fabric of civilised society is torn. And none of this discourse will make the slightest difference.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:18
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 216 of 298
Aye, I agree.

I think talking about it is a part of the process of it gradually changing (I don't mean we affect change by talking about it, obviously, just that us talking about it reflects the beginnings of a gradual change). Anyway, it's either this or phones and I'd rather talk about this.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:19
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 217 of 298
That makes absolutely no sense (hug)
From: milko10 Aug 2011 12:20
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 218 of 298
there's also the parents who do give a shit but whose kids won't accept their control. Plenty of interviews like that going on lately.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)10 Aug 2011 12:24
To: ALL219 of 298
quote:
Prime Minister David Cameron says Britain will not allow a culture of fear to take over the streets, and says police have drawn up contingency plans to use water cannons if necessary.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/10/police-calm-london-but-riots-flare-across-uk/#ixzz1UclOgqb5



OH NO, not water! Anything but that!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:27
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 220 of 298
We're not fat like you Americans, a decent quality water pistol can break us in half :C

The stand-in chief commissioner of the london her majesty's police of great britain metropolitan force (or whatever) was talking earlier and said (I paraphrase) "We're going to arrest absolutely everyone who was involved with the rioting".

They're going to need a lot of cells (nod)
From: JonCooper10 Aug 2011 12:28
To: ALL221 of 298
90. Manthorp
COMMENT NUMBER 90 IS AN EDITORS' PICK
52 MINUTES AGO
Why are young people going to listen to politicians, when they've been fleecing the expenses system for everything they can take? Why are they going to listen to the legal system, when nobody has been held to account for abuses within the banking system? Why are they going to listen to the police, who have been taking cash from the press to break confidentiality? Who *has* moral authority?