You don't need guns, you just need a bunch of angry Turks.

Can't watch that at work. What do they do, beat them with legs?

And what difference does using a pipe, club, knife as opposed to a gun? The intent to hurt or kill someone doesn't go away just because you don't have a gun!

Very true, but thankfully the available "weapons" aren't as lethal.

Fire and cars kill people! I know because I saw it in a video game once!

Because pipes and clubs and knives aren't as easy to use as a gun. You have to get up close to use them. You have to really mean it.

haha that made me laugh.

I was once hit in the face with a pipe. I'm sure he meant it as well.

Nope, just chase after them shouting.

One guy had a pipe/stick/whatever, but wasn't seen to use it.

I think this describes it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8691761/London-riots-residents-fight-back.html

Now just picture that scene but instead of a group of people make it a fine red dot following each of the rioters down the street.

You're still alive though.

A gun shot to the face could easily have been a different story. :/



There's been one confirmed fatality in all this - a guy who got shot.

Are you saying if he had a gun he wouldn't have been shot? And that if everyone had guns there would be less injured people?

No, but I am saying that the store owners could put an end to it much faster. Possibly with more fatalities, possibly with rioters getting smart very fast.

Yay! Dead people! The perfect way to end anything.

They don't have to die. How can you die when you are home minding your business?

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True, the availability of guns certainly calmed down those tensions in LA in 1992.

This doesn't look too out of balance to me. More like natural selection.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that.

We don't need guns - we just need more people like those store owners - i.e. actual communities that stand up for each other.

 

If people were like that everywhere - and if the Met weren't apparently so slow and useless - this probably wouldn't have gone as far and for so long as it has done.

 

If looters are constantly turned away from being able to loot, they'll eventually get bored, but every time they're successful it empowers them to keep going, and potentially get do more severe things.

That it wasn't a war zone. For the amount of guns in that area the entire west coast could have been wiped out.

Most people who have grown up with guns only use them as a last resort and I think those number reflect that.

When this is all said and done we will compare deaths to deaths and property damage to property damage.

Everyone needs guns! Guns are fun!

Guns are no doubt incredibly fun.

Doesn't mean they should be given to mentally unstable people though.