Not that I've ever heard of. You'd hear it if it needed it for some reason.

Fair enough. Using higher RON fuel always resulted in an extra 5 mph on the top speed!

Donald Rumsfeld?

I was going to use it as my signature. I laughed my ass off when Peter posted that!

I don't know about no car. I had a car from 1987, namely a Ford Escort, that was incredible good on fuel. 40MPG on a trip was not uncommon and at least 30 MPG local driving was the norm.

A large SUV is of course quite lousy on fuel, but fully loaded with family, luggage and a rack with 4 bikes is an impossible task for the Escort. Plus if there is a creek to be crossed, the Escort would have to float it.

And?

you get shit mpg, I get 38+ round town in my landrover

Good for you. A 4-banger, no doubt?

Ah, I didn't know that. Not particularly a fast car (although it is quick for what it is), but all EU cars are made to run on 95 RON fuel. Anything lower than that and most cars would run pretty lumpy I would have thought, with them pre-detonating the fuel/air mix.

Indeed, but I wouldn't run 91 RON fuel.

Just to confuse the issue, diesel isn't usually graded by RON but by cetane instead.

I would if it was 2004 prices.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13326275

Let's face it - its like a heroine addict protesting to their dealer...

Don't forget American gallons are bigger than the ones we use, so their MPG numbers are lower for the same amount of fuel.

God I love Imperial.

Imperialist.

thought they were smaller?

(fail)

God Bless the Emporeresses.