This is BS

From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:40
To: ANT_THOMAS 29 of 65

Rapid summary: RON is a measure of 'explosiveness' and / or octane. Contrary to VERY popular belief, high octane fuel is LESS explosive than low octane fuel. What this does is allow the fuel to be more compressed without spontaneous ignition, meaning when it's deliberately ignited by the spark plug (At JUST the right moment) the energy created is much more.

 

Essentially, high performance cars have high compression engines. Most cars, well, don't.

 

Running high octane fuel in a normal car will make zero difference, whatsoever*. Running normal fuel in a high compression engine will do one of the following:

 

-Cause pre detonation, where the fuel explodes prior to the spark plug lighting. This is pretty bad for the engine and obviously kills performance

 

-The ECU will detect the above and back the timing off. Engine will be fine but performance suffers heavily

 

*Regardless of what someone will no doubt say, any differences in performance are either because the car is specced for high octane fuel OR the high octane fuel happens to have better detergents in it which clean the engine.

 

Conclusion: Unless your car really is high performance / high compression, don't waste your money.

From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:41
To: koswix 30 of 65
Haha, you wikipediad AND beat me to the punch. Ah well, my explanation was off the top of my head because I know this shit!
From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:42
To: koswix 31 of 65
But that's an idiotic measure of "quality", isn't it?
From: ANT_THOMAS 4 May 2011 21:54
To: Dan (HERMAND) 32 of 65
So to sum things up I shouldn't put high RON petrol in my diesel car (giggle)
From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:57
To: ANT_THOMAS 33 of 65
Well, I wasn't addressing you personally, but no, I wouldn't.
From: ANT_THOMAS 4 May 2011 22:10
To: Dan (HERMAND) 34 of 65
Since you know about these things. Should there be a noticeable difference in using higher RON fuel in a pretty standard 50cc moped?
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 4 May 2011 23:36
To: ALL35 of 65
If the weather would ever get nice I'd get my girl out and not cry so much about gas prices!
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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 5 May 2011 00:09
To: JonCooper 36 of 65
:-(( :-(( :-((
From: koswix 5 May 2011 01:18
To: Dan (HERMAND) 37 of 65
There is knowledge that you know, and there is knowledge that you know where to look to find.
From: koswix 5 May 2011 01:19
To: ANT_THOMAS 38 of 65
Now I /know/ that's a bad idea.
From: fixrman 5 May 2011 03:41
To: koswix 39 of 65

Hey, wait a minute! I drive a Land Rover(at least part time)! It is a 1989 and I wouldn't say that it is a paragon of British fuel economy...

 

Wish we had Tdi 5s here.

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 5 May 2011 03:54
To: fixrman 40 of 65
Uh... it's twenty years old?

No car from 1989 is going to be great on fuel economy, whatever country it was made in.

Especially not a Land Rover - which was designed to rove land, not to save fuel!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 5 May 2011 06:18
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 41 of 65
quote:
Especially not a Land Rover - which was designed to rove land


They should use that in their advertising. "Got land to rove? Buy a landrover!".
From: Dan (HERMAND) 5 May 2011 06:45
To: ANT_THOMAS 42 of 65
Not that I've ever heard of. You'd hear it if it needed it for some reason.
From: ANT_THOMAS 5 May 2011 07:48
To: Dan (HERMAND) 43 of 65
Fair enough. Using higher RON fuel always resulted in an extra 5 mph on the top speed!
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 5 May 2011 11:20
To: koswix 44 of 65
Donald Rumsfeld?
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 5 May 2011 11:39
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 45 of 65
I was going to use it as my signature. I laughed my ass off when Peter posted that!
From: fixrman 5 May 2011 11:48
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 46 of 65
I don't know about no car. I had a car from 1987, namely a Ford Escort, that was incredible good on fuel. 40MPG on a trip was not uncommon and at least 30 MPG local driving was the norm.

A large SUV is of course quite lousy on fuel, but fully loaded with family, luggage and a rack with 4 bikes is an impossible task for the Escort. Plus if there is a creek to be crossed, the Escort would have to float it.
From: koswix 5 May 2011 12:46
To: fixrman 47 of 65
And?
From: JonCooper 5 May 2011 18:23
To: fixrman 48 of 65
you get shit mpg, I get 38+ round town in my landrover