This is BS

From: PNCOOL 4 May 2011 16:53
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 22 of 65
You can keep your cheaper-than-UK fuel. My car would spit the fuel back out if I tried to run it on 93 RON unleaded. I don't even think it would let me open the fuel cap if it knew I was trying to put 87 RON fuel into it.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 4 May 2011 18:58
To: PNCOOL 23 of 65
87 is the only thing we can afford!
From: koswix 4 May 2011 20:08
To: PNCOOL 24 of 65

That's actually 91 RON and 97-ish RON. The figures are displayed in AKI, apparently.

 

What car do you drive? Is it FAST?

From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:22
To: PNCOOL 25 of 65
Although Kos has already pointed out the AKI thing, remember that RON isn't a measure of fuel quality. Unless your car is going to make use of it, there's just no point.
From: ANT_THOMAS 4 May 2011 21:30
To: Dan (HERMAND) 26 of 65
Genuine question, how does one car make better use of higher RON fuel than another?
From: koswix 4 May 2011 21:32
To: Dan (HERMAND) 27 of 65

Higher than what your engine is meant for is no benefit, but lower can damage the engine.

 

It totally is a measure of quality if you would consider that fuel that makes your engine break as bad quality fuel :C

From: koswix 4 May 2011 21:34
To: ANT_THOMAS 28 of 65

Higher RON can withstand higher pressure (turbo chargered cars, for instance) before auto igniting.

 

Some clever cars and bikes can adjust engine timing to suit the RON of the fuel, too :O

 

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From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:40
To: ANT_THOMAS 29 of 65

Rapid summary: RON is a measure of 'explosiveness' and / or octane. Contrary to VERY popular belief, high octane fuel is LESS explosive than low octane fuel. What this does is allow the fuel to be more compressed without spontaneous ignition, meaning when it's deliberately ignited by the spark plug (At JUST the right moment) the energy created is much more.

 

Essentially, high performance cars have high compression engines. Most cars, well, don't.

 

Running high octane fuel in a normal car will make zero difference, whatsoever*. Running normal fuel in a high compression engine will do one of the following:

 

-Cause pre detonation, where the fuel explodes prior to the spark plug lighting. This is pretty bad for the engine and obviously kills performance

 

-The ECU will detect the above and back the timing off. Engine will be fine but performance suffers heavily

 

*Regardless of what someone will no doubt say, any differences in performance are either because the car is specced for high octane fuel OR the high octane fuel happens to have better detergents in it which clean the engine.

 

Conclusion: Unless your car really is high performance / high compression, don't waste your money.

From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:41
To: koswix 30 of 65
Haha, you wikipediad AND beat me to the punch. Ah well, my explanation was off the top of my head because I know this shit!
From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:42
To: koswix 31 of 65
But that's an idiotic measure of "quality", isn't it?
From: ANT_THOMAS 4 May 2011 21:54
To: Dan (HERMAND) 32 of 65
So to sum things up I shouldn't put high RON petrol in my diesel car (giggle)
From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 May 2011 21:57
To: ANT_THOMAS 33 of 65
Well, I wasn't addressing you personally, but no, I wouldn't.
From: ANT_THOMAS 4 May 2011 22:10
To: Dan (HERMAND) 34 of 65
Since you know about these things. Should there be a noticeable difference in using higher RON fuel in a pretty standard 50cc moped?
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 4 May 2011 23:36
To: ALL35 of 65
If the weather would ever get nice I'd get my girl out and not cry so much about gas prices!
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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 5 May 2011 00:09
To: JonCooper 36 of 65
:-(( :-(( :-((
From: koswix 5 May 2011 01:18
To: Dan (HERMAND) 37 of 65
There is knowledge that you know, and there is knowledge that you know where to look to find.
From: koswix 5 May 2011 01:19
To: ANT_THOMAS 38 of 65
Now I /know/ that's a bad idea.
From: fixrman 5 May 2011 03:41
To: koswix 39 of 65

Hey, wait a minute! I drive a Land Rover(at least part time)! It is a 1989 and I wouldn't say that it is a paragon of British fuel economy...

 

Wish we had Tdi 5s here.

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 5 May 2011 03:54
To: fixrman 40 of 65
Uh... it's twenty years old?

No car from 1989 is going to be great on fuel economy, whatever country it was made in.

Especially not a Land Rover - which was designed to rove land, not to save fuel!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 5 May 2011 06:18
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 41 of 65
quote:
Especially not a Land Rover - which was designed to rove land


They should use that in their advertising. "Got land to rove? Buy a landrover!".