Libya

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 8 Mar 2011 02:29
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 51 of 80
Because that would be illegal.
From: JonCooper 8 Mar 2011 09:42
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 52 of 80
but, there are many 'ruler's all over the world who I would suggest are a bit crazy and should be removed from power (mugabe?) are you suggesting /we/ should remove them all?
EDITED: 8 Mar 2011 09:42 by JONCOOPER
From: ANT_THOMAS 8 Mar 2011 10:31
To: koswix 53 of 80
You clearly have a wrong setting somewhere. I always get new Twitter when I login, with the option to go to old Twitter. I would quite like that banner to fuck off though.
From: koswix 8 Mar 2011 12:08
To: ANT_THOMAS 54 of 80
Your a wrong setting :C
From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 12:25
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 56 of 80
that's always been true, the only reason we were so sure Saddam had weapons of mass destruction is cos we had the reciepts
From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 13:21
To: JonCooper 57 of 80
</Bill Hicks quotes>
From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 15:36
To: graphitone 58 of 80
bill hicks?
From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 15:46
To: JonCooper 59 of 80
What you said up there was practically a word for word quote of Hicks' War on Iraq bit.

Look at the top box
From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 16:50
To: graphitone 60 of 80
ah right, I only said it cos it's true
From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 16:52
To: JonCooper 61 of 80
(nod)
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)16 Mar 2011 01:16
To: ALL62 of 80
France and Britain failed to persuade other world powers meeting in Paris to impose a no-fly zone over the country

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Alain Juppé, the French foreign minister said: "If we had used military force last week to neutralise some airstrips and the several dozen planes that they have, perhaps the reversal taking place to the detriment of the opposition wouldn't have happened. But that's the past. Gaddafi is scoring points. We have perhaps missed a chance to restore the balance."

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"They are bombing everywhere. They are killing people, civilians, whatever," said Sherif Layas, 34, who was a marketing manager before he took up arms and joined Libya's revolution.
He added that Gaddafi's forces were about to reach the point where the rebels would be unable to resist without outside help. "This is the death line, right here," he said.

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Insurgents have been desperately calling for a no-fly zone, and the Arab League came out in support over the weekend.

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David Cameron said the Gaddafi regime had already committed "multiple breaches" of an existing UN resolution.



So the Libyans and the Arab League have been asking for help, British and French governments want to give it ... but they're not allowed, because Germany, Russia and China are making making deals with Garfield to get cheap oil in return for vetoing any attempts to protect the Libyan citizens?
From: Mouse16 Mar 2011 01:24
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 63 of 80
Urgh... the whole thing has the ugly tone of world war history text.
From: Manthorp16 Mar 2011 08:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 64 of 80
quote:
...because Germany, Russia and China are making making deals with Garfield to get cheap oil in return for vetoing any attempts to protect the Libyan citizens?


You missed one of the stickers-of-spanners-in-the-works mentioned in the article:

quote:
following resistance from Russia, Germany and the US. China, a United Nations security council veto-holder, is also opposed.


There is, sadly, no de facto correspondence between international politics and human morality.
From: steve16 Mar 2011 11:48
To: Manthorp 65 of 80
At least the US and China agree. I suspected WWIII when the US went in to steal China's oil.
From: Matt16 Mar 2011 12:06
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 66 of 80
I'm surprised the government even decided it was a good idea. Don't we usually go ask our US puppet masters what they think first?

As for the French, surprised they even care.

</cliché>
From: Matt16 Mar 2011 12:11
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 67 of 80
Actually, as for the French government voting in agreement for the no fly zone, they probably voted for it knowing it wouldn't be passed by the other countries, and now they can claim the moral high ground and Sarcozy gets some much needed brownie points.

</cynic>
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)16 Mar 2011 13:12
To: Manthorp 68 of 80
Oh... missed that - they were only mentioned once at the top, not later on like the rest.

I assume they're dragging their feet for other reasons.
I've read a couple of references to Obama wanting to react, but not actually doing anything.


This whole world is too screwed up. :(
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)16 Mar 2011 16:51
To: steve 69 of 80
Umm, China doesn't have any oil, does it? Just coal, and no fucker wants /that/. :?
From: ANT_THOMAS16 Mar 2011 16:54
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 70 of 80
But shit loads of rare earth metals which they're clamping down on the export of.