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Libya

From: Mouse 8 Mar 2011 01:38
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 45 of 80
38225.45 In reply to 38225.44
Aye, it's fucked up. Don't think there's really an easy answer. Going in, capping Qaddafi, Qadhdhaafiy, Khaddafi, Q'udafi whatever his bloody name is won't just solve everything I imagine. But he, his family and his cohorts are evil bastards and should get fucked.
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From: JonCooper 8 Mar 2011 01:39
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 46 of 80
38225.46 In reply to 38225.44
or maybe the dumb UK government could just fuck off and let Libya sort it out for themselves

we simply CANNOT go about the world deciding which leaders we like and which are a bit of a PITA (today)

why? cos we (the west) ALWAYS fuck it up
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 8 Mar 2011 01:47
To: Mouse 47 of 80
38225.47 In reply to 38225.45
Chrome called him Garfield so I went with that. :)
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 8 Mar 2011 01:53
To: JonCooper 48 of 80
38225.48 In reply to 38225.46
I don't like the idea of standing around letting people die. :/


It's not a question of deciding leaders - seems pretty clear that decision has already been made.

If a dog goes crazy and attacks its family, it gets put down.

If a ruler goes crazy and attacks their own people, they should also be dealt with.
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 8 Mar 2011 01:54
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 49 of 80
38225.49 In reply to 38225.42
I thought Russia was all nice and cuddly these days?

(Or is that just the pretty girls the internet people keep promising to send me?)
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From: koswix 8 Mar 2011 02:12
To: ALL50 of 80
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The thing I hate about twitter is that I have to click every fucking time to switch to the new version of twitter. Cunts.
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From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 8 Mar 2011 02:29
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 51 of 80
38225.51 In reply to 38225.38
Because that would be illegal.
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From: JonCooper 8 Mar 2011 09:42
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 52 of 80
38225.52 In reply to 38225.48
but, there are many 'ruler's all over the world who I would suggest are a bit crazy and should be removed from power (mugabe?) are you suggesting /we/ should remove them all?
EDITED: 8 Mar 2011 09:42 by JONCOOPER
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From: ANT_THOMAS 8 Mar 2011 10:31
To: koswix 53 of 80
38225.53 In reply to 38225.50
You clearly have a wrong setting somewhere. I always get new Twitter when I login, with the option to go to old Twitter. I would quite like that banner to fuck off though.
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From: koswix 8 Mar 2011 12:08
To: ANT_THOMAS 54 of 80
38225.54 In reply to 38225.53
Your a wrong setting :C
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From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 12:25
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 56 of 80
38225.56 In reply to 38225.55
that's always been true, the only reason we were so sure Saddam had weapons of mass destruction is cos we had the reciepts
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From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 13:21
To: JonCooper 57 of 80
38225.57 In reply to 38225.56
</Bill Hicks quotes>
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From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 15:36
To: graphitone 58 of 80
38225.58 In reply to 38225.57
bill hicks?
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From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 15:46
To: JonCooper 59 of 80
38225.59 In reply to 38225.58
What you said up there was practically a word for word quote of Hicks' War on Iraq bit.

Look at the top box
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From: JonCooper10 Mar 2011 16:50
To: graphitone 60 of 80
38225.60 In reply to 38225.59
ah right, I only said it cos it's true
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From: graphitone10 Mar 2011 16:52
To: JonCooper 61 of 80
38225.61 In reply to 38225.60
(nod)
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)16 Mar 2011 01:16
To: ALL62 of 80
38225.62
France and Britain failed to persuade other world powers meeting in Paris to impose a no-fly zone over the country

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Alain Juppé, the French foreign minister said: "If we had used military force last week to neutralise some airstrips and the several dozen planes that they have, perhaps the reversal taking place to the detriment of the opposition wouldn't have happened. But that's the past. Gaddafi is scoring points. We have perhaps missed a chance to restore the balance."

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"They are bombing everywhere. They are killing people, civilians, whatever," said Sherif Layas, 34, who was a marketing manager before he took up arms and joined Libya's revolution.
He added that Gaddafi's forces were about to reach the point where the rebels would be unable to resist without outside help. "This is the death line, right here," he said.

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Insurgents have been desperately calling for a no-fly zone, and the Arab League came out in support over the weekend.

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David Cameron said the Gaddafi regime had already committed "multiple breaches" of an existing UN resolution.



So the Libyans and the Arab League have been asking for help, British and French governments want to give it ... but they're not allowed, because Germany, Russia and China are making making deals with Garfield to get cheap oil in return for vetoing any attempts to protect the Libyan citizens?
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From: Mouse16 Mar 2011 01:24
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 63 of 80
38225.63 In reply to 38225.62
Urgh... the whole thing has the ugly tone of world war history text.
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From: Manthorp16 Mar 2011 08:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 64 of 80
38225.64 In reply to 38225.62
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...because Germany, Russia and China are making making deals with Garfield to get cheap oil in return for vetoing any attempts to protect the Libyan citizens?


You missed one of the stickers-of-spanners-in-the-works mentioned in the article:

quote:
following resistance from Russia, Germany and the US. China, a United Nations security council veto-holder, is also opposed.


There is, sadly, no de facto correspondence between international politics and human morality.
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