Teh Mine

From: steve26 Jan 2011 02:12
To: ALL84 of 3934
I have just seen this. Maybe I too need a trim :C (grandma)
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)26 Jan 2011 02:14
To: ANT_THOMAS 85 of 3934
Yeah, the way JPEG works relies on more continuous tones (like in photos), so it's not going to work for something so pixely as the lamps.

If I was going to produce a Minecraft mapper, I think I'd create multiple images - a JPEG background that did basic scenery and could be compressed a fair bit, and then a transparent PNG overlay for all the stuff like lamps that would otherwise be destroyed (and since it'd be yellow+orange+transparent, it'd compress well too.

Kos - what did you use to do this; is source code available?
From: koswix26 Jan 2011 02:43
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 86 of 3934
I think PNG Crush does all that, but tbh I got a bit lost reading the readme :$
From: koswix26 Jan 2011 02:44
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 87 of 3934

It's called MC Map, and I think source is available from this page:

 

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=40327

From: koswix26 Jan 2011 02:45
To: steve 88 of 3934
YOUR HAIR IS SO BIG IT IS LEAKING INTO THE WRONG THREAD :@
From: ANT_THOMAS26 Jan 2011 02:46
To: koswix 89 of 3934
(giggle)
From: koswix26 Jan 2011 02:54
To: ALL90 of 3934

Can someone remind me to phone Virgin in the morning?

 

I'm definitely upgrading, just noticed that they're charging me 37 a month for 20MB, when on their site it's 20 a month. 50MB is 35 a month. :?

From: steve26 Jan 2011 05:21
To: koswix 91 of 3934
Phone Virgin! :C
From: af (CAER)26 Jan 2011 14:34
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 92 of 3934
If there's a JPEG option to disable colour subsampling, use that - it should help with retaining colour detail.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)26 Jan 2011 14:56
To: af (CAER) 93 of 3934
I have it disabled on the one above.

Well, "Chroma subsampling" is set to "YCbCr 1x1 1x1 1x1 (None)" - assuming that's the same thing.


Am I right in having a vague memory that it's possible to embed a JPG within a PNG file, so I can proceed with my plan of background+overlay, but still end up with a single file?
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)26 Jan 2011 15:27
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 94 of 3934
How about we just use a jpeg cos fuck whether you can see individual torches or not and YOU GET ON THE SERVER AND FUCKING BUILD SOMETHING.
From: patch26 Jan 2011 15:43
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 95 of 3934
The curiosity's just about killing you, isn't it?
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)26 Jan 2011 15:44
To: patch 96 of 3934
Yes :'S
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)26 Jan 2011 15:45
To: patch 97 of 3934
Also just the more the merrier.
From: af (CAER)26 Jan 2011 16:21
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 98 of 3934
TONIGHT

Tonight I will get this "Mine Craft" game you all seem so keen on, and TONIGHT I will build something rubbish.

Then once I know what I'm doing I will try to build something good.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)26 Jan 2011 16:43
To: af (CAER) 99 of 3934
You're a good lad so you are, unlike that Peter. He's a bad sort, stay away from him.
From: DrBoff (BOFF)26 Jan 2011 16:44
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 100 of 3934
If you make a go board I will come and play with you.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)26 Jan 2011 16:44
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 101 of 3934
I'm at work right now, so can't.

And I'm on crappy 3G again - haven't even bothered trying to connect with that. :(
From: af (CAER)26 Jan 2011 16:44
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 102 of 3934
I will build a mighty fortress to keep him and his sort at bay.

Then when he's not around I shall expand my fortress to encompass aforesaid bay, such that I may sail a boat without fear.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)26 Jan 2011 16:49
To: DrBoff (BOFF) 103 of 3934
I made a chess board! Wouldn't be able to do the grid on a go board though.