Teh Mine

From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 6 Aug 2012 02:40
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3680 of 3934
What it was was people like you making a game to build shit and then asking your friends if they'd like to help. And then our friends (Peter) add a bunch of stupid shit in.
EDITED: 6 Aug 2012 02:41 by SHIELDSIT
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 02:43
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 3681 of 3934
:D

Aye.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 6 Aug 2012 03:03
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3682 of 3934
You're playing it wrong.

Just because you can shoot straight down into a cave and come up with a hoard of iron and diamonds before the second night doesn't mean you should do that.

If mobs aren't a big enough threat then don't wear armour, and don't use swords or bows.

If you want tactics and teamwork then get one of the mods for that and/or do PvP.

Not that I disagree that there shouldn't be tougher mobs, and dungeons with a single spawner are far too easy, but on the whole the game is still way better than Morrowind AND has better music too.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 03:05
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3683 of 3934
I knew you'd say that. And it's /ridiculous/.

The game is good so long as you... don't play it?

I want to go and get the best materials. I want to then make the best weapons and armour. I want a challenge after I do so.

I don't want to use mods.

You're defending bad design.

I'm going to pretend you didn't say that about Morrowind otherwise I'm honour-bound to literally execute you. Legally of course, I have a writ.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 6 Aug 2012 03:16
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3684 of 3934
I'm not defending bad design, it's just incomplete is all, because Notch/Jeb/etc has to waste so much time adding different coloured wood for people like you instead of adding trolls and yetis and snakes and eagles and tigers and bears and wraiths and sharks and WTF did Firefox just crash for when it wasn't even doing anything!? :@

Anyway, I need to sleep.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 03:25
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3685 of 3934
They don't need more (though that would be good too). They need to make combat not fucking dreadful. Badly designed, motherfucker.

<executes pb>
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 6 Aug 2012 03:40
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3686 of 3934
-bash: pb: command not found
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 04:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3687 of 3934
:'S

~bash: sudo apt-get install pb
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 6 Aug 2012 04:06
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3688 of 3934
~Pi: Insufficient memory to run pb
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 04:06
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 3689 of 3934
(giggle)
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 6 Aug 2012 04:07
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3690 of 3934
Looks like I need to upgrade!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 04:16
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 3691 of 3934
Or do less intensive shit :Y

Don't put XBMC on it, that's boring.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 6 Aug 2012 04:27
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3692 of 3934
That's only on one SD card.  I have two more that have other OS's on it!
From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 6 Aug 2012 04:31
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3693 of 3934
You want more challenge? Let's try this. Yes it's a mod but it's nicely subtle and purposeful, not just adding stuff for the sake of it.

I agree that the combat is not deep or interesting enough to carry a combat-focused game, but at the same time playing on peaceful has begun to feel sort of meaningless to me.
EDITED: 6 Aug 2012 04:52 by OZGUR
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 05:21
To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 3694 of 3934
Fuck mods.

And aye, understand that.
From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 6 Aug 2012 05:49
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3695 of 3934

I thought the main part of your argument against console gaming was that PCs encourage creativity. Surely modding is the epitomy of that?

 

Either way, watch those videos because they're funny but also because I'd quite like to do something like that. There's also a lot of videos of them playing PvP with that mod, Battle Royale style, which is even more interesting.

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 06:23
To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 3696 of 3934
It is aye. I like mods existing. I've just never used an amateur-made mod that wasn't shit.

(with a few exceptions)

I shall watch those vids. After MARS.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 6 Aug 2012 12:37
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3697 of 3934
Why don't you like mods? (most of them being shit isn't a reason - most of everything is shit).
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 13:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3698 of 3934
Because they're mostly shit. But more than that I suppose I subscribe to the myth of the author (or don't, rather). I want the authoritative version. A designer has designed a thing and I want to experience that thing as they intended.

I feel a kind of purity in doing that that's lost when modding.

Also, if after doing that I decide I want to tweak things a bit, it's very very rare that someone has wanted to tweak it in the exact same/correct way.
From: JonCooper 6 Aug 2012 13:10
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 3699 of 3934
the only minecraft mod I approve of is called "timbermod"

basically, it makes trees fall down when you chop the bottom out
which is how it should be - cos that's how trees work