Teh Mine

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 13:44
To: Mikee 2503 of 3934
Again, you're missing the point of: Ask. That's all you had to do.

Again, you're missing the point of: No one else seemed to be befuddled by these normal social interactions.

quote:
built my building with more space than any of the space between all the other buildings in the area to make sure that nobody felt it was too close.


Yeah, all those buildings were built by me (and people who helped). So really you should've been taking the distance between all those buildings and the next 'settlement'. This is where asking comes in.

quote:
You said my tree was too close, which was fine, so I moved out into more space.


No, this is where you're simply lying. You built down on the beach on the other side. And I said "That's really close to my stuff - why not find a nice empty area like everyone else did? There's plenty of it".

And then you moved literally 10 metres away, if that, and built it again. And I said "That's still pretty close to my stuff. There really is a lot of empty space you know - why not go into a genuinely empty area and build your stuff there?".

And then you went to the other side of the city and built a tree made of trees and I said "Mikee, you keep building stuff right next to mine - there really is a lot of empty space out there. Why not go and find some empty land and build your stuff there? I was planning to put a wall down there".

And then you moved a few metres away, I mean literally just a few metres away, and started building a giant sheep. And so I posted here because I was obviously failing to communicate my point somehow.

I really didn't know whether you genuinely don't understand or whether you're just trying to be antagonistic or seeking attention or something.

I really don't get what's so special about building right next to me? I mean there are fucking swathes of empty land out there and yet over and over again you feel the need to build on the 0.01% of the map (that's a guess, and it's probably high) of the map that I occupy? I mean.. once, fair enough. But repeatedly? After being asked several times? Are you in love with me or something?

And I'm the one being the dick? :'D

quote:
I can't even SEE the church from that hill when I play on my laptop at home.


This is pretty typical of the kinda bullshit you're coming out with. I can set my game to minimum view distance and not be able to see your shit from 5 metres away. Is it then ok for me to build a 10m box around it?

I assure you that on the settings I play on, I can see your shit from mine.

Seriously though, why are you repeatedly, despite being asked not to, building your stuff on the tiny little portion of the map I occupy rather than in the vast tracts I don't, other than to be irritating/seek attention?
From: ANT_THOMAS27 Jul 2011 13:45
To: Mikee 2504 of 3934

Just because someone is there it doesn't mean they're building. I go and visit peoples buildings often.

 

HardWork builds with Xen most of the time. So "XENS AREA" is more like "XEN and HARDWORKS AREA".

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 13:47
To: Mikee 2505 of 3934
You did know because I told you several times. I'm pretty sure there were people on the server with us while I was telling you. So claiming not to know is not just lying, it's really dumb lying.

Kev (HardWork) is in that area a lot because we built pretty much all of it together. That sand area is where he tests out circuits for when he's making the very large transportation system he's made for everyone else to use. We keep it clear so he can test stuff out there. He's too polite to mention it which is why I did. Again, this is something you know because, again, I explained it to you in game.
From: ANT_THOMAS27 Jul 2011 13:54
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2506 of 3934
I've added the minelines map to the first post, do you mind? (I'm thinking in terms of bandwidth because I've directly linked it, though I doubt it'd hurt your allowance)
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 13:55
To: ANT_THOMAS 2507 of 3934
Course not. I'll be updating it soon to add the new stuff that's been connected and the Grand Nether Network. I'll overwrite the file when I do.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)27 Jul 2011 13:57
To: ALL2508 of 3934
So are the days of teh Mine.
From: steve27 Jul 2011 14:06
To: ALL2509 of 3934
(giggle)
From: Mikee27 Jul 2011 14:20
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2510 of 3934
Stop talking shit.

I was told the sand area was for 'testing redstone circuits', so I built one. You didn't want it in front of your machine, so I built it around the back out of your way.

So I built something a respectable distance from any building in what seemed to be a communal building area where I often see lots of people and where some of the buildings even have other peoples names on them.

You told me to move further away, so I moved far enough away for me to be SURE it wouldn't get in the way of your church.

At no point has ANYONE said to me that people have their own large areas. Yeah, you said to find a large open space when I built the tree, so I did. How was I supposed to know you meant a whole fucking island away?

And no, don't flatter yourself. I've built stuff close to where I was stood at the time of deciding to build something.

Either way, there's no point in discussing this any further.

I'm glad to have a map of areas so I can see whether or not one of my buildings may offend someone.

EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 14:21 by MIKEE
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)27 Jul 2011 14:22
To: ALL2511 of 3934
I am now tempted to spend some time building a giant horse with a disproportionately large c**k and.. all that, just to see who finds that offensive.
From: Mikee27 Jul 2011 14:26
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 2512 of 3934
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 14:27
To: Mikee 2513 of 3934
:')

Unbelieiiibklble.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 14:43
To: Mikee 2514 of 3934
Sorry, no, I tried to restrain myself but I just can't help it.

So you were able to read the signs on peoples' houses saying that x person owns this house. But not able to read the much more prominent signs next to them saying that these are communal houses for people to take?

And you say there were lots of people hanging around the place and don't know who owns it and yet the appropriate synapses didn't fire and make you think "waaait a minute... waaait a minute, I could ASK someone :O :O :O :D (cheer) ".

And you... seemingly deny being told, repeatedly, that you're too close, there's plenty of open space, go find some and building effectively just as close on the other side? Despite lots of people seeing this happen?

I don't really mind you lying and (I hope) feigning stupidity but you're also treating everyone else as if they're stupid too, which is pretty insulting.

Here's how it should've gone:

"Hey Mikee, I kidna have plans for that area, why not go find some empty space to build in - there's lots of it!"

"Oh, hey, sorry! I'll do just that :D"
or "Oh sorry, I didn't realise - mind if I build X over there?"
or "Oh sorry. Got anything you need a hand with?"
or "Oh sorry. What'd be a good place to build? Could you help me look?"

All of these would be normal social interactions. What you did - repeatedly doing the exact same thing after you were asked and had it explained to you, reasonably, many times - was just kinda psychotic.
From: Mikee27 Jul 2011 14:59
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2515 of 3934
You said you were thinking of building something where I'd built that tree and said to move to some open space, so I moved to a place that I knew wouldn't get in your way even if you built the biggest garden imaginable.

And no, I didn't think that I should have to ask permission from The Lord Almighty if I could build something that couldn't be in his way even with the wildest stretch of imagination.

I played in the same way as people play on all the other minecraft servers I've played on. You build a building and you make sure it has plenty of space around it so that it doesn't interfere with other peoples buildings.
EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 15:01 by MIKEE
From: steve27 Jul 2011 15:18
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 2516 of 3934
I'm tempted to gather loads of TNT and become a Minecraft terrorist :Y
From: johngti_mk-ii27 Jul 2011 15:47
To: ALL2517 of 3934
IT'S A GAME!!!!! Give me a load of Lego any day, much more fun :-)
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)27 Jul 2011 15:51
To: Mikee 2518 of 3934
Yes yes yes ok. I'm now somehow God just because I object to your desperate attention seeking and refuse to just swallow your bullshit.

First you didn't know. Then you did know but thought you were far enough away. Then you thought it was a communal area. Then you're back to not knowing.

No one in their right fucking mind can think that moving a few metres makes any difference. And, yet again, no one else seems to have had a problem with just being considerate and decent.

I dunno. You happen to build a railway just after there's lots of talk about how cool Kev's railway network is (overlooking the fact that it gets praise because it's genuinely useful and co-operative - it links up all the things people made rather than just being a track to nowhere). Then, just after a few people say the citadel/cathedral/kev's harvester stuff is cool (not because it's anything special, just it's the last big thing built and that always gets a few posts/comments in game) and then you happen to have this desperate need to build stuff around there, despite being asked repeatedly not to just build random stuff there.

I dunno, it just smacks of attention seeking. Which in a way is fine - one of the reasons any of us build stuff is to show off and make people smile or surprise people whatever. But the way you go about it seems to fundamentally misunderstand the collaborative, co-operative, communal nature of the game. Competing for attention rather than making stuff fit together sympathetically.

It's like seeing someone speaking to an audience about something interesting and then standing next to them and just shouting. It's not illegal and you have every right to do it but, regardless of how interesting it is, it's just fucking rude.
From: JonCooper27 Jul 2011 15:53
To: ALL2519 of 3934
don't be sending people down my way, I have plans for the whole continent, and maybe the one next to it as well :P
From: Mikee27 Jul 2011 15:58
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2520 of 3934
quote:
No one in their right fucking mind can think that moving a few metres makes any difference. And, yet again, no one else seems to have had a problem with just being considerate and decent.


You said you needed space because you might build a garden thing, so I moved out of the way of whatever the fuck it was you had planned to build. WHY CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS?

quote:

I dunno. You happen to build a railway just after there's lots of talk about how cool Kev's railway network is (overlooking the fact that it gets praise because it's genuinely useful and co-operative - it links up all the things people made rather than just being a track to nowhere). Then, just after a few people say the citadel/cathedral/kev's harvester stuff is cool (not because it's anything special, just it's the last big thing built and that always gets a few posts/comments in game) and then you happen to have this desperate need to build stuff around there, despite being asked repeatedly not to just build random stuff there.

I dunno, it just smacks of attention seeking. Which in a way is fine - one of the reasons any of us build stuff is to show off and make people smile or surprise people whatever. But the way you go about it seems to fundamentally misunderstand the collaborative, co-operative, communal nature of the game. Competing for attention rather than making stuff fit together sympathetically.


What the fuck are you on about? The first day I joined I built a railway because that's what I'm pretty sure most people do on the first day they join. It's one of the most interesting parts of the game. I had no idea who built the main railway or when they did it.

When I went exploring I found the harvester which sparked my interest in trying to understand how Redstone works so after Kev showing me some basic stuff I tried to build something.

Are you deliberately acting like an utter dickhead? Or are you so far removed from reality these days that you've become some arrogant twat who is REALLY protective about someone building within walking distance from his pixels in a computer game?

Grow the fuck up
EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 15:58 by MIKEE
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)27 Jul 2011 16:04
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2521 of 3934
quote:
I tried to restrain myself but I just can't help it.

Stop being weak-willed and repeating the same boring stuff or I'll build a bunch of big ugly obsidian lumps all over your structures. :@
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)27 Jul 2011 16:04
To: Mikee 2522 of 3934
quote:
couldn't be in his way even with the wildest stretch of imagination.

Then your imagination sucks.

I can't be arsed checking how many times you moved, but even after the second or third time, it would have been sensible to say "is this far enough?", even if you were certain it was.
EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 16:06 by BOUGHTONP