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From: JonCooper 9 Mar 2011 00:56
To: spinning_plates 1112 of 3934
there is air trapped under some steps & some glowstone, dunno if it would help
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 01:11
To: JonCooper 1113 of 3934
Not sure which glowstone you're referring to - the ones in the middle by the glass window don't - although you do get your bubbles refreshed if you kiss the bottom, but that's just an illusion, and you soon start drowning. :S

There is a pillar of air created by the ladder in the nearest corner, which does let you get down to the bottom though.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 21:21
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1114 of 3934
Teh Eden Project Project!

If we want to do a 1:1 replica (or at least begin with something the right scale, even if the end result is nothing like it), we need an area at least 450x450 blocks. (I'd prefer 600x750 to include a bit of the surrounding area.)

For comparison, the swimming pool (building) is 100x100 blocks ( I'm assuming; I only counted roughly :P )


That's a pretty big area we'd need to clear - though unlike the swimming pool we don't need to dig all the way down.
Going ~16 blocks below sea level would be enough, though maybe a few more than that might look better.


So. Are people wanting to be doing that?

Also, do people want to aim for completion by 17th March (the tenth anniversary of full site opening), which basically gives us a week?
From: JonCooper 9 Mar 2011 21:32
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1115 of 3934
not convinced it could be done in a week, especially as minecraft.net seems to be down (again)

I find the clearing part enjoyable, so I'm up for that, but I don't know I'd be much help on dome construction etc.

are you planning to get all the elevations etc right too?
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 9 Mar 2011 21:37
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1116 of 3934
Given the diameter, is 16 blocks below sea level enough to build the dome properly, or will it hit the ceiling?
From: ANT_THOMAS 9 Mar 2011 21:49
To: JonCooper 1117 of 3934
I'm probably the same! I'll happily clear lots of ground.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 21:59
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 1118 of 3934
I didn't pluck 16 out of thin air you know. :P

The whole Eden Project site is ~450m² - most of which is outdoor gardens and assorted buildings - the two biodomes are only about 1/6th of that space combined.

The largest dome is 55m high.

Bedrock = 0..4, sea level = 64 and invisible ceiling = 128

The reason for dropping 16 is:
a) to stop the tip of the big one from reaching cloud level and looking crap.
b) the site is an old quarry, so is actually in a dip in the ground anyway.


Technically, to be accurate, we should probably be around 30..40m above sea level, and then drop a certain amount down from that - but that's probably taking things a bit too far. :)
EDITED: 9 Mar 2011 22:03 by BOUGHTONP
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 22:02
To: JonCooper 1119 of 3934
As right as possible, what with not having actual blueprints to follow. :)

Knowing the biodome heights along with width/length should give us a fair guide, but if we're going to do it I'll also try and track down heights of the other buildings/structures to make it easier.
From: Mouse 9 Mar 2011 22:04
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1120 of 3934
I'm trying to figure out if you'd make an outstanding or a terrible foreman. We will see.
From: JonCooper 9 Mar 2011 22:25
To: ALL1121 of 3934
minecraft.net is back online

any preference as to where clearance is done?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 22:33
To: JonCooper 1122 of 3934
I'm going to go hunt around for a suitable area (i.e. make sure it's not going to collide with anyone's structures, but also isn't too far) and then create a warp point there.

Once I've done that I'll put a central marker, and if you could start clearing ~200..250 in each direction from that marker that'd be great. :)
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 22:45
To: ALL1123 of 3934
btw, here's a satellite view with 1m = 1px = 1 block

The yellow bit is the main area, and we can add car parks and roads and stuff at the end, if we feel like it.
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From: Chris (CHRISSS) 9 Mar 2011 23:31
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1124 of 3934
I don't think you mean 450m², that's only 21mx21m.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 23:36
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 1125 of 3934
:$ I hate area maths.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 23:37
To: JonCooper 1126 of 3934
Here...

The beautiful white lines represent the towers/warp points.

What do you think?
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From: koswix 9 Mar 2011 23:38
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1127 of 3934
How about a 1/32nd scale instead? :| :| :| :| :|
From: patch 9 Mar 2011 23:40
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1128 of 3934
Maybe somewhere that's a bit closer to sea level? Just a thought. I don't really know of any alternative sites.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 9 Mar 2011 23:43
To: patch 1129 of 3934
That was the flattest place I could see. :'S

The scale/distance is the main problem though. :/
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)10 Mar 2011 00:23
To: ALL1130 of 3934
Going 250 in each direction would be HUGE, so might do it 2m=1 block instead. :S

Until we decide for sure what we're doing, if anyone wanting to help clearing only goes to ~100..125 in each direction, that'd be good.

That way, it's not wasted effort if we decide to go half size, but still useful if we decide to go full size.
From: koswix10 Mar 2011 01:04
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1131 of 3934

This is a stupid idea.

 

I renounce all claim and link to the idea.