Why is Java so popular, anyway? We use a Java-based support desk application here, and it's a big ol' pile of shite. And just about anything else that uses it seems to attract more than its fair share of hatred. And it needs updating at least once a fortnight.

 

Why do people use it? Why, Drew, why?

DO IT KOS DO IT!

1. Because Java is relatively easy to code and relatively portable.
2. Because many people who did programming-type degrees back in the day learned Java.
3. Because Java is, in theory, absolutely lovely. It's merely the practise where it falls down.

1. So?
2. Wankers.
3. I've got a car like that.

I gave it 2GB of ram to play with, and the Java process was using 400, the thing in the server status a bit less than that.

1. Aye.
2. Aye.
3. :D

What sort of router is it?

I wouldn't expect three people in an online game to have a significant impact on anything modern. :S

That's just a reason for NOT FALLING OFF and for you to make it up to that player for the pain and anguish your carelessness caused them. :@

(don't really have an opinion on this; I was just trying to make Patch happy)

I so hate the dark
I killed a spider - with a feather!
but I didn't see a creeper sneak up behind me
my corpse is lying in a hole now :(

It's a linksys something or other running DD-WRT, fairly recently updated.

 

It has been a bit dodgey for a while and it's due for a replacement, but I'm loathe to buy a new router when Virgin are giving away a free Wireless N router with their 100meg service (whenever the fuck it goes live :@)

Your words bring me shame :'(

Awww. Thank you. Feel free to shout some more. At Xen.

Desktop/GUI Java is pants, and deserves the hatred.

Server-based Java is actually capable of being very fast and good and stuff, but it does rely on the developers knowing what they're doing, and can require appropriate tuning to get the best out of it.

People use it because it came along and attracted people away from C++ and then nothing else has come along to replace it, except for C#.NET which is Microsoft.

(Java the language is a horrible over-engineered pile of shite, which is why there are so many alernative languages popping up which use the Java platform, but don't require using the horrible Java syntax.)

How easy is it to connect your machine direcly (bypassing the router) and seeing what happens then?

And tell Virgin to hurry up! :@

Fairly easy, but then I wouldn't be able to play minecraft :(

Did you do that memory thing Pete said?

According to Virgin, the rollout in Edinburgh is still 'being planned' :(

 

http://shop.virginmedia.com/content/dam/allyours/pdf/100Mb-rollout-7-12-10.pdf

I had already done that (only i gave it EVEN MOARRR then pete suggested) - The server tells you to do it if you don't do it (message thing comes up saying "NOT ENOUG RAMOMG!! DO THIS [command] TO MAKE ME HAPPY")

:'S

I meant just as a test to see if it lets 3+ people on it.

If it does, it's the router, otherwise it's something else.

Also, you can connect to your own server - you just can't connect more than one client from the same IP.