Minecraft

From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:19
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 274 of 477

Odd. I could see your messages when you said them on the server, but they didn't appear in game for /ages/. That would suggest the PC running the server was slowing up, but the server was only using 400 meg of RAM and CPU usage never went over about 60%.

 

My router looks like it might have been going a bit crazy, though. Showing only 2% of RAM available :S

From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:19
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 275 of 477
And yeah, my router doesn't respond to external pings.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:19
To: ALL276 of 477
Someone please come help me with this spider :'S
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)21 Jan 2011 14:20
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 277 of 477
There is one difference: the number of players.

(uh... and the number of bugs)
From: patch21 Jan 2011 14:26
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 278 of 477
I suppose so.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:26
To: koswix 279 of 477
Yeah, seems to be fine until there's 3> people there then the lag goes crazy :(
From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:34
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 280 of 477

THink it could be my router... or my PC. Or the fact that this is all done in fucking Java :@

 


Router says:
Load Average
17%
0.23, 0.17, 0.10

 

Might give it a reboot just for the hell of it.

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:34
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 281 of 477
The number of players involves many subsequent differences, many of a social nature.

For example if I am collaborating with someone on building something very far away from spawn and I stupidly fall off and have to walk all the way back there from the spawn point, I am not only inconveniencing myself but them as well.

I think teleport is a reasonably compromise. It only allows you to teleport to another player. It's also nice for going round having a look at what people are doing.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:36
To: koswix 282 of 477
Yeah the java thing really doesn't help.
From: JonCooper21 Jan 2011 14:37
To: ALL283 of 477
I saw a pick on the floor, spent ages trying to pick it up then Drew ran past and whisked it away!

and I suspect Kos pushed me in a hole!
From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:38
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 284 of 477
..and teleporting you out of your fucking hole you got stuck it :D
From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:38
To: JonCooper 285 of 477

Haha, I dug the block out you were standing on, but there was a big hole underneat :D

 

I came down with a flower for you tos ay sorry though :(

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:39
To: koswix 286 of 477
I fell down a hole and was amazed to still be alive. So I explored a bit and roughly 3 minutes later everything caught up and the fall killed me :'D
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)21 Jan 2011 14:39
To: koswix 287 of 477
quote:
but the server was only using 400 meg of RAM


When you say "the server" was only using 400 meg, that's very vague. As I said to someone before, Java memory stuff isn't as straightforward as that. :(

Did you launch the gave with any min/max memory settings? (Possibly it defaults to 512MB max, so when it gets to 400MB it starts trying to do garbage collection, but can't do it quickly enough, and thus everything slows down).

If not, try launching it with this:
code:
java -Xmx1G -Xms1G -jar minecraft_server.jar


Which is giving it a maximum amount of 1GB and telling it to go ahead and allocate the whole 1GB.
From: patch21 Jan 2011 14:39
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 288 of 477

Why is Java so popular, anyway? We use a Java-based support desk application here, and it's a big ol' pile of shite. And just about anything else that uses it seems to attract more than its fair share of hatred. And it needs updating at least once a fortnight.

 

Why do people use it? Why, Drew, why?

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:40
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 289 of 477
DO IT KOS DO IT!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:42
To: patch 290 of 477
1. Because Java is relatively easy to code and relatively portable.
2. Because many people who did programming-type degrees back in the day learned Java.
3. Because Java is, in theory, absolutely lovely. It's merely the practise where it falls down.
From: patch21 Jan 2011 14:44
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 291 of 477

1. So?
2. Wankers.
3. I've got a car like that.

From: koswix21 Jan 2011 14:45
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 292 of 477
I gave it 2GB of ram to play with, and the Java process was using 400, the thing in the server status a bit less than that.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)21 Jan 2011 14:45
To: patch 293 of 477
1. Aye.
2. Aye.
3. :D