Hosting

From: ANT_THOMAS29 Sep 2010 16:15
To: Matt 79 of 100
Was that the smoothest migration we've done?
From: Matt29 Sep 2010 16:17
To: ANT_THOMAS 80 of 100
It helped having the new server available to play with for a few days before switching over.
From: bumblebee29 Sep 2010 21:42
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 81 of 100
I am no expert on those things, but given that hunger for resources wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to buy and operate one's own server?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)29 Sep 2010 22:05
To: bumblebee 82 of 100
I'm not sure of the current price of rack servers, but my impression is that co-location (renting rack-space at hosting facilities) in general is going out of fashion these days, because it's simply easier, cheaper, and less hassle for hosts to provide virtual servers, and similarly users don't have to worry about upgrading, hardware failure, and so on.
(And that's not even getting into all the issues surrounding visiting the data centres to install hardware.)

At the moment, we are actually on the lowest Linode 512 plan, and it seems to be coping absolutely fine.

The place is not exactly at its busiest presently - and being on a crappy 3G connection it's hard to tell - but it's certainly not worse than before the move, and server load is currently considered 'idle', so whilst it's still early days, I don't think we have anything to worry about.
EDITED: 29 Sep 2010 22:07 by BOUGHTONP
From: Mouse30 Sep 2010 07:46
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 83 of 100
I think it's quicker if anything this new host.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)30 Sep 2010 09:10
To: Mouse 84 of 100
Good. :)

Didn't want to bias any opinions by saying it, but yes - it certainly was whilst setting things up - I was on broadband loading both side-by-side and this one was noticably quicker.

Some of that is simply having it London/UK based, rather than Netherlands - we gain ~10ms just from it being closer.

Oh yeah, and we're using a different web server - nginx instead of Apache httpd - not sure how much difference that makes generally, but it's more lightweight and copes with load better.
From: Dave!!30 Sep 2010 09:37
To: Mouse 85 of 100
It does seem nice and nippy so far doesn't it! :-)
From: Mouse30 Sep 2010 10:07
To: Dave!! 86 of 100

Yes.

 

*ZOOM*

From: Dave!!30 Sep 2010 10:21
To: Mouse 87 of 100
Do I spy another van race coming on?
From: Mouse30 Sep 2010 11:44
To: Dave!! 88 of 100
My dad's van has got more junk in it than your dad's van
From: Dave!!30 Sep 2010 12:03
To: Mouse 89 of 100
My dad's van has more mis-matched body panels than your dad's van.
From: Mouse30 Sep 2010 12:35
To: Dave!! 90 of 100
My dad doesn't bother replacing them and drives too slow for any collisions to cause dents anyway.
From: bumblebee30 Sep 2010 13:24
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 91 of 100
Oh, I meant operating one's own server at home. I used to be an a huge German board (about 50k users) whose owner/programmer/admin operates his own server from his living room :)
From: ANT_THOMAS30 Sep 2010 13:28
To: bumblebee 92 of 100
And what sort of internet connection did he have?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)30 Sep 2010 13:57
To: bumblebee 93 of 100
What Ant said - unless he had a special internet connection, he almost certainly wouldn't be getting connection speeds like this:

quote:
Pinging www.tehforum.co.uk [178.79.137.101] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 178.79.137.101: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 178.79.137.101: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 178.79.137.101: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54
Reply from 178.79.137.101: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 178.79.137.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 3ms


It'd be nice if we had home connections that responded like that... maybe in Germany they do... but generally they're much slower and less reliable.
From: ANT_THOMAS30 Sep 2010 14:02
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 94 of 100
Haha, them replies are quicker than me pinging another pc on my network over WiFi!
From: bumblebee30 Sep 2010 14:33
To: ANT_THOMAS 95 of 100

No idea, probably fast DSL since he lives in Berlin...
I was on that board for 6 years and usually it was no slower than this one.
Admittedly, maybe once a year the board was gone for a few hours or even a day when hardware had to be replaced :D

From: ANT_THOMAS30 Sep 2010 14:36
To: bumblebee 96 of 100
It would've been an extremely fast line to handle that many users and no doubt very expensive!!
From: bumblebee30 Sep 2010 15:32
To: ANT_THOMAS 97 of 100
Here they offer fiber connections now (200Mbps down, 10Mbps up guaranteed) for about 50€/month. They also offer 1Gbps connections (both up and down) for 250€/month, but who can afford that... ;P
EDITED: 30 Sep 2010 15:33 by BUMBLEBEE
From: ANT_THOMAS30 Sep 2010 15:39
To: bumblebee 98 of 100
:O I'd definitely take the €50/month option.