It's that time of year again...

From: Matt24 Sep 2008 14:12
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 161 of 220
The referral stuff should be active, for Play.com and Amazon.co.uk at least. Unless the word filters are broken again, but I don't think they are.

With the Adsense stuff, I'm thinking it would help just to boost the income a little bit. I've seen a few sites go under just trying to survive on donations, and with Beehive becoming more and more popular I wouldn't want this place to start costing anyone (you) lots of money, especially if we start using oodles of bandwidth a month.

If you're worried about people being turned away by the presence of adverts we can always add a little foot note to them explaining how they'll disappear after you register sort of thing.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 14:38
To: Matt 162 of 220
Xen linked something the other day that didn't have the referral bit on it, and I'm sure I've seen other similar situations.


I'm wondering about you specifying the .co.uk for Amazon there though?

Test...

http://www.amazon.com/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472

Neither have it in the preview...
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 14:45
To: Matt 163 of 220

As for the AdSense / hosting costs...

 

How much data transfer do we have? - I remember it being something huge like 500GB a month, and we'd have to have quite a lot more visits to reach that (I'd be surprised if we're even near 10% of that at the moment.)

 

I think pushing the affiliate stuff is more likely to boost income than AdSense - how many people actually follow AdSense vs affiliate links?

EDITED: 24 Sep 2008 14:46 by BOUGHTONP
From: Matt24 Sep 2008 15:18
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 164 of 220
On checking the Amazon one had been switched from PREG to 'Match All' some where along the line, so you're right it wasn't working, but it is now. And yes, amazon.co.uk is what it's written to match. Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?

As for Adsense vs. affiliate links, well you and Milko have the stats so I couldn't compare them to any Adsense stats, not that we have any Adsense stats anyway.

The only way I can see us pushing the affiliate links beyond how we do them at the moment would be to start listing them at the bottom of every page or trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be. Would certainly be easy if the two sites had feeds of their products.

I'd be inclined to think that we can do both without too much hassle. suitably sized AdSense adverts at the top of the thread list and message pane for Guests and Affiliate text only links at the bottom for all users.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 15:31
To: milko 165 of 220
quote:
Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?


Are you able to check that?
From: milko24 Sep 2008 17:12
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 166 of 220
It doesn't as far as I know. I'll check when I get the moneys info.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 23:59
To: Matt 167 of 220
If it is only .co.uk, based on the very quick test I did earlier, we might be able to simply switch .com addresses over - it used to be before they used different IDs, but it appears that they've unified that now.


As for stats... well nothing to compare against, but here are some anyway. :)
In the past 12 months, we've had:
336 clicks, 250 unique visitors, 27 sales.


quote:
trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. :)

At least for Amazon, who do web services which can avoid the trawling - maybe we can add a button to the post screen "find amazon product" that does all the magic and returns a suitable link.

There's stuff within TradeDoubler related to product feed / product databases, but I'm not currently awake enough to figure out exactly what's what.
From: Woggy25 Sep 2008 07:16
To: ALL168 of 220
I always buy everything from Amazon through the drop down link at the top, don't tell me it's not been working properly?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)25 Sep 2008 12:33
To: Woggy 169 of 220
The drop down link is fine.

This is for adding the referral id to Amazon links within posts.
From: Woggy25 Sep 2008 12:45
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 170 of 220
Ah, that's alright then B-)
From: Al JunioR (53NORTH)25 Sep 2008 23:09
To: Matt 171 of 220
I landed once on an obscure forum, and every 3 posts was one line of small dark text in the field BG with a hyperlink to something mentioned in the last 3 posts. Was deadly accurate, with some great web links. Think it was a gardening forum, when I was looking for obscure recipes.
From: Matt 2 Oct 2008 22:31
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 172 of 220
Think you'll be wanting to reopen that ticket (or open a new one).

Our Plesk License has expired. Again.

This time it's gone completely, well Plesk is still there and I can login but I now can't use anything, it just goes to the purchase license page, even when logging in as root.

Seeing as we've just paid out for another year in advance the least you'd expect is for them to give us another year long Plesk License.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 2 Oct 2008 23:06
To: Matt 173 of 220
Grrr! I want to thump the idiots.


I've re-opened the previous ticket, will let you know when they reply.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 2 Oct 2008 23:14
To: Matt 174 of 220
Well, initial response is nice and prompt:
quote:
Dear Peter,

We are working on your issue and would update you our findings soon.

Regards,
--
Sam M.
Team Leader
Plesk Linux/Unix Support
EuroVPS, Inc.
EDITED: 2 Oct 2008 23:15 by BOUGHTONP
From: Matt 2 Oct 2008 23:31
To: ALL175 of 220

Oh, can you see what they can do about upgrading us / moving to a new server as well?

 

Upgrading Apache, MySQL and PHP at least would be nice, but a whole new server that someone actually supports would be better. Something less archaic than Redhat 3AS, which not even Redhat support anymore it seems.

EDITED: 2 Oct 2008 23:33 by MATT
From: DeannaG (CYBATRON) 3 Oct 2008 04:05
To: Matt 176 of 220

Matt, monthly, our sites average a couple thousand live body visitors, non bots or crawlers, the adsense haven't netted anything yet. We don't put them in the member areas, like forums, member pages, etc., just on main site pages. We get more from member donations.

 

We've been looking into some affiliate programs to use instead. Mostly credit cards, web hosting companies, financial institutions, insurance, damaged credit lending, gambling sites, and a few pay sites. These seem to be among the better payers.

 

We've also been checking the local area for businesses that might be interested in being sponsors, possibly for a banner in the rotations we run on the main sites.

 

If you like, I can send you a copy of the rotater. It's easy to set up and manage, and runs on php pages. If you want to use it on a html page, then you have to iframe it. Let me know if you want the rotater.

 

Also, we're sending you a little thank you for all the help you've been giving us at hof. You've been a true sweety. Thank you.
DP

EDITED: 3 Oct 2008 09:19 by CYBATRON
From: DeannaG (CYBATRON) 3 Oct 2008 09:28
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 177 of 220

We're kicking some money Matt's way this week, but if you send me the paypal information, CFN can send something in next week to help out.

 

It'll also give me some time to check with the other owners and staff members and see if they can kick anything in too.

 

I know I get a payment this week, so I can kick in at least 25 American. I don't know what that translates to at your end, never did understand that stuff, but it might get you a little closer. If the other owners and staff kick in, Beehive will get more.

 

How does that sound to you?

 

DP

EDITED: 3 Oct 2008 09:28 by CYBATRON
From: ANT_THOMAS 3 Oct 2008 12:16
To: DeannaG (CYBATRON) 178 of 220

Fantabulous!

 

You guys do a lot of kicking, hope you don't get sore feet!

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3 Oct 2008 18:58
To: DeannaG (CYBATRON) 179 of 220
What Ant said. :)


I've just sent you the relevant PM.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 3 Oct 2008 20:00
To: Matt 180 of 220
Regarding the RHEL3/5 stuff, they've replied with this:

quote:
Yes we could do that .

You can switch to one of the plans available on
http://eurovps.com/vps_hosting/unix_plesk_vps_servers.asp .

We would migrate your data and preserve your Ip's if you maintain the annual subscription. The Centos 5 version ma be chosen for your needs.

Kindly let us know your thoughts about the same.


(As you probably know, Centos is almost identical to RHEL, just with the trademarked stuff stripped out.)


On a side matter, I looked at the original post (to compare prices) and the currencies have all gone funny.
EDITED: 3 Oct 2008 20:00 by BOUGHTONP