It's that time of year again...

From: koswix24 Sep 2008 11:45
To: Matt 151 of 220
:'(
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Sep 2008 12:22
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 152 of 220

I endorse this idea.

 

I also endorse Matts Google ads for Guests idea.

From: Matt24 Sep 2008 12:34
To: ALL153 of 220
Someone with better organisational skills than myself should go sign up for a Google AdSense account and tell me what you need to inject into the pages (HTML, Javascript, etc) of the pages so I can add it to the pages.
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Sep 2008 12:35
To: Matt 154 of 220
I vote Peter.
From: dave (10_ROGUE)24 Sep 2008 12:39
To: ANT_THOMAS 155 of 220

Is the referal link still added to links posted? I'm sure it was then got removed, why not put it back for all those of us who forget to use it.

 

Probly worth bookmarking it too.
(added to my list of things to forget to do later).

EDITED: 24 Sep 2008 12:40 by 10_ROGUE
From: milko24 Sep 2008 12:40
To: ALL156 of 220
Sorry, sorry sorry. I still haven't sorted the amazon affiliates thing. I will!
From: Dave!!24 Sep 2008 12:57
To: Matt 157 of 220
Good idea and one I also endorse :)
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)24 Sep 2008 13:15
To: Dave!! 158 of 220
W3rd.
From: MrTrent24 Sep 2008 13:30
To: Matt 159 of 220
It's probably a good idea, as long as we never have to see them.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 13:49
To: Matt 160 of 220
Hmmm, just to make things clearer: the £427 excludes any referral pots.

TradeDoubler requires a bank account, and I didn't want to put it all in my account until I got around to sorting out a Teh Bank Account, so simplest solution is to use that amount as the starting balance for next year, once I actually get the account setup.

Um, I'll do a diagram:




And that's also excluding the Amazon pot which milko is sorting out very soon, yes? :)


IOW, I don't think we should/need to bother with the AdSense stuff.


However, we should definitely either:

1) just restore the auto-referral links.

2) write a filter that adds a "teh referral link" option after any normal link, so people have a choice which one to follow.

3) same as 2, but in reverse (so main link is referral, and there's a "non referral" placed after it).
EDITED: 24 Sep 2008 13:50 by BOUGHTONP
From: Matt24 Sep 2008 14:12
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 161 of 220
The referral stuff should be active, for Play.com and Amazon.co.uk at least. Unless the word filters are broken again, but I don't think they are.

With the Adsense stuff, I'm thinking it would help just to boost the income a little bit. I've seen a few sites go under just trying to survive on donations, and with Beehive becoming more and more popular I wouldn't want this place to start costing anyone (you) lots of money, especially if we start using oodles of bandwidth a month.

If you're worried about people being turned away by the presence of adverts we can always add a little foot note to them explaining how they'll disappear after you register sort of thing.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 14:38
To: Matt 162 of 220
Xen linked something the other day that didn't have the referral bit on it, and I'm sure I've seen other similar situations.


I'm wondering about you specifying the .co.uk for Amazon there though?

Test...

http://www.amazon.com/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472

Neither have it in the preview...
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 14:45
To: Matt 163 of 220

As for the AdSense / hosting costs...

 

How much data transfer do we have? - I remember it being something huge like 500GB a month, and we'd have to have quite a lot more visits to reach that (I'd be surprised if we're even near 10% of that at the moment.)

 

I think pushing the affiliate stuff is more likely to boost income than AdSense - how many people actually follow AdSense vs affiliate links?

EDITED: 24 Sep 2008 14:46 by BOUGHTONP
From: Matt24 Sep 2008 15:18
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 164 of 220
On checking the Amazon one had been switched from PREG to 'Match All' some where along the line, so you're right it wasn't working, but it is now. And yes, amazon.co.uk is what it's written to match. Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?

As for Adsense vs. affiliate links, well you and Milko have the stats so I couldn't compare them to any Adsense stats, not that we have any Adsense stats anyway.

The only way I can see us pushing the affiliate links beyond how we do them at the moment would be to start listing them at the bottom of every page or trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be. Would certainly be easy if the two sites had feeds of their products.

I'd be inclined to think that we can do both without too much hassle. suitably sized AdSense adverts at the top of the thread list and message pane for Guests and Affiliate text only links at the bottom for all users.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 15:31
To: milko 165 of 220
quote:
Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?


Are you able to check that?
From: milko24 Sep 2008 17:12
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 166 of 220
It doesn't as far as I know. I'll check when I get the moneys info.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Sep 2008 23:59
To: Matt 167 of 220
If it is only .co.uk, based on the very quick test I did earlier, we might be able to simply switch .com addresses over - it used to be before they used different IDs, but it appears that they've unified that now.


As for stats... well nothing to compare against, but here are some anyway. :)
In the past 12 months, we've had:
336 clicks, 250 unique visitors, 27 sales.


quote:
trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. :)

At least for Amazon, who do web services which can avoid the trawling - maybe we can add a button to the post screen "find amazon product" that does all the magic and returns a suitable link.

There's stuff within TradeDoubler related to product feed / product databases, but I'm not currently awake enough to figure out exactly what's what.
From: Woggy25 Sep 2008 07:16
To: ALL168 of 220
I always buy everything from Amazon through the drop down link at the top, don't tell me it's not been working properly?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)25 Sep 2008 12:33
To: Woggy 169 of 220
The drop down link is fine.

This is for adding the referral id to Amazon links within posts.
From: Woggy25 Sep 2008 12:45
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 170 of 220
Ah, that's alright then B-)