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From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)22 Dec 2007 18:09
To: william 16 of 18
I think I agree with you mostly.

I agree that it's mainly about setting a frame of mind. But then I think the causal way of thinking is, too, for other purposes.

I absolutely agree with what you said about the view of science in western culture. I think that's a big problem.

I think Madhyamaka are definitely saying all that shiz is an illusion but I don't think they're saying it in a Zen way. It smacks more of Taoism (to which, along with Ludy W. I am very sympathetic) to me.

I'm sorry, I haven't really said much. Nothing useful is coming to mind right now.
From: af (CAER)25 Dec 2007 17:43
To: ALL17 of 18
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From: AND HIS PROPHET IS (MOHAMED42)25 Dec 2007 20:10
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 18 of 18
I think that having a non-causal "understanding" would be the equivalent of insanity.