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Winter CD.

From: spinning_plates 1 Dec 2006 16:51
To: Dave!! 60 of 126
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Oh I completely agree, it seems ridiculous. I always though as a kid that winter started in November some time. However, I was, evidently, wrong.
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1 Dec 2006 17:09
To: spinning_plates 61 of 126
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It is ridiculous, and that's why it's a definition that should be ignored, and one of the more accurate definitions uses instead.

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Astronomically, it starts with the winter solstice, and ends with the spring equinox

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In meteorology, it is by convention counted instead as the whole months of December, January and February in the Northern Hemisphere.

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the winter solstice is traditionally considered as midwinter[citation needed], the winter season beginning 1 November on All Hallows or Samhain. Winter ends and spring begins on Imbolc or Candlemas, which is February 1 or 2.

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the three-month period associated with the coldest average temperatures typically begins somewhere in late November
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From: JonCooper 1 Dec 2006 17:14
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 62 of 126
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Astronomically, it starts with the winter solstice, and ends with the spring equinox


isn't that the same as what he said? ^^
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From: Dave!! 1 Dec 2006 17:27
To: JonCooper 63 of 126
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Yes, but BP's point I believe is that there's loads of different definitions about when it does and doesn't start. As has been mentioned, I think it's daft that it supposedly begins on the shortest day.
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From: MrTrent 1 Dec 2006 17:52
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 64 of 126
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In meteorology, it is by convention counted instead as the whole months of December, January and February in the Northern Hemisphere.
That's the definition of winter i've always gone by.
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1 Dec 2006 18:11
To: JonCooper 65 of 126
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Indeed it was, but to expand on what Dave!! pointed out, sp hadn't mentioned that it was the Astronomical definition.
Personally I find the climatic definition to be the most sensible - since winter is generally 'the cold part of the year', so why not make it align with the actual coldest part of the year.
(and the time of the year when the autumn leaves have mostly finished falling and the time where mid-winter is actually in the middle.)
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From: spinning_plates 1 Dec 2006 18:52
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 66 of 126
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Well, here at least, the coldest part of the year probably is between about Dec 21st and March 21st. It's not gotten really frigid yet and it doesn't tend to start thawing out until the end of March.
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From: JonCooper 1 Dec 2006 19:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 67 of 126
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it does align with the cold part of the year, end of Dec to end of March
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From: Dave!! 1 Dec 2006 19:04
To: JonCooper 68 of 126
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I disagree. I consider December in general to be colder than March. We've already been having frosts and whatnot here. I tend to find those begin dying out towards the end of Feb / beginning of March.
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From: JonCooper 1 Dec 2006 20:39
To: Dave!! 69 of 126
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eh? frosts? nah, it hasn't dipped below 10O yet (here)
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 1 Dec 2006 21:41
To: JonCooper 70 of 126
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start of december, to mid-march.
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From: ANT_THOMAS 3 Dec 2006 12:52
To: JonCooper 71 of 126
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It certainly has here in Sheffield and the trees no longer have any leaves that can be shed. It's winter here.

 

And the wind that is managing to shake my house worries me.

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From: Manthorp 3 Dec 2006 17:29
To: mr_swayzee 72 of 126
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Oi! Dirty ghost Patrick! Irrespective of the meteorological nicities with which the rest of the possie define the bleak midwinter, I say it is nigh and I want an album of warming winter grooves to snuggle up to the missus with.
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From: mr_swayzee 4 Dec 2006 10:38
To: Manthorp 73 of 126
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well, you could have one now but it would be shortish, I would like some more reccomendations please

pull your weight forum! 

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From: Manthorp 4 Dec 2006 13:09
To: ALL74 of 126
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Aye, get a bloody move on. Last one to post her or his two wintery songs is a pocket-fluffy werthers.
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From: mr_swayzee 4 Dec 2006 13:47
To: ALL75 of 126
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Running time as stands - 52:03 from 13 Tracks

shite

come along folks, think warm cozy nights by the fire, think mulled wine, think walks in the snow on crisp clear mornings, think sledging with dad, just.... THINK!! 

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From: milko 4 Dec 2006 14:03
To: mr_swayzee 76 of 126
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I will add "That Was The Worst Christmas Ever!" by Sufjan Stevens please. Again can supply if need be.
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From: JonCooper 4 Dec 2006 15:01
To: mr_swayzee 77 of 126
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I should like to add

 

"Fairytale of New York." by The Pogues

 


I particularly like the line: "You scumbag, you maggot, You cheap lousy faggot, Happy Christmas, your arse, I thank God it's our last".

EDITED: 4 Dec 2006 15:03 by JONCOOPER
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From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 4 Dec 2006 15:01
To: ALL78 of 126
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I would like to nominate "The Most Offensive Song Ever" from Mr Hankey's Christmas Classics.
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Dec 2006 15:40
To: JonCooper 79 of 126
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Fairytale of New York by The Pogues featuring Kirsty MacColl

quote: Manthorp, #14,16
I think we should rise to the challenge of NOT including Fairytale of New York.

...it's rapidly becoming part of the canon of just-about-tolerable-christmas-songs-that-have-been-reduced-to-cliche-cos-they've-been-played-to-death.

(Except I would remove the rapidly becoming myself.)
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