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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.0&return_msg=43096.4"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.11">11–13</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43096.4">Virtual Machines</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43096_4_13_10"> <a name="a43096_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 Feb 11:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Feb 11:59"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4">43096.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.1">43096.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've been using Virtualbox for many years, using it now to run Win7 -- an instance I've been using for many years in several different environments, including Macs (I first spun it up ~10-years ago). Virtualbox is a fantastic product, very flexible, very easy to use. I'm sure there are ways to push it to the breaking point, and Peter knows what they are. <span class="emoticon e_moustache" title=":-{)"><span class="e__">:-{)</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.4&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 9 Feb 14:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 11:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.5">43096.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_4" target="_self">43096.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I haven't used VirtualBox in a long time. I think I vaguely remember there was something that didn't work <em>because Oracle</em>, but can't remember what/when. <p>I use <a href="https://www.qemu.org/">Qemu</a> now.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.5&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 9 Feb 16:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 11:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.6">43096.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_4" target="_self">43096.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I got a bit annoyed that Broadcomm are saying that the full V17 of VMWare Workstation Pro plus VMWare player are free for personal use when it's next to impossible to actually get it. So, I went to a third party site (Techspot.com) and after fighting off all the "Download Now" buttons that turn out to be dodgy PDF editors or rebadged versions of 7zip, I actually got a copy. Installed, activated (didn't even have to register with Broadcomm) and updated it. Works fine. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.6&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 11:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 14:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.7">43096.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_6" target="_self">43096.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> After delving into this a bit, I learned that VirtualBox is best for desktop virtualization, and vmware for servers, which isn't something I've tried (or needed). At work I used a stack of really old, underpowered office pcs for web servers, and a slightly newer and less underpowered, gerry-built pc to run a php front end to a NAS appliance. So if a thing failed, I only had to replace that one thing (the first NAS backplane died, the only thing to fail in >10 years). Still no idea how those goddamn hdds kept on going.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.7&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 14:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 22:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.8">43096.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_7" target="_self">43096.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> They do though. A few years back we had a patch room next to our office and in one corner was this really ancient tower case. We took the side off once and it was something like a pentium DX4. Then someone suggested turning it off to see what happened. Before anybody could object one brave soul pulled it's kettle lead out. Later that day, a bloke wandered up to ask what had happened to his database. Apparently it was something to do with reporting for a national tax system. It had been running 24x7 for the last 11 years. It all recovered fine and it's probably still going.<br /> <br /> Edit: I mean a 486 DX4 of course. Actually can't remember, might have been something else, but it was very old and very dusty.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 10 Feb 18:17 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.8&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">11 Feb 09:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Feb 17:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.9">43096.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_5" target="_self">43096.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah I don't have much call for VMs these days but if I do I use Qemu. (And virt-manager for ... managing them).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.9&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">11 Feb 17:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Feb 18:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.10">43096.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_9" target="_self">43096.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I installed Qt-based AQemu for management, then discovered <a href="https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/aqemu/aqemu.1.en.html">the best man page you've ever seen</a>... <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.10&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">11 Feb 18:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Feb 16:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.11">43096.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_10" target="_self">43096.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span><br /> <br /> I mean... it's accurate!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.11&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">25 Feb 20:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Feb 21:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.12">43096.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.1">43096.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm still on VMWare Workstation - it's definitely findable, I only got the latest version a few weeks ago.<br /> <br /> This is something that's actually improved, because I had to buy it before. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.12&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43096_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_43096_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">25 Feb 21:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_unread" title="Unread Message"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.13">43096.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43096.4#a43096_12" target="_self">43096.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, me too. It seems they forgot that they are a major international company for a few weeks. If they have good intentions then it's sadly masked by poor execution. I went to a third party file download site, grabbed a copy and everything worked fine after that. <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 25 Feb 22:03 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43096.13&return_msg=43096.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43096.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>