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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.0&return_msg=43085.6"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.11">11–20</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.31">31–39</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43085.6">Which 16:10 Monitor ?</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43085_6_39_10"> <a name="a43085_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">19 Jan 20:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jan 20:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6">43085.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.1">43085.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Without trying them I'd only be guessing, but they all have the same type of panel, resolution etc. and near identical stats for performance. I suspect that the majority of parts are identical and that the differences in model are fishing for people looking for very specific spec values. The HDMI 2 thing is meaningless. None of the panels can do better than HD and 8 Bit colour so there's no reason for more than HDMI 1.4. If that model really does support HDMI 2 it's probably because Asus got a good deal on HDMI 2 parts during that manufacturing run.<br /> <br /> In short, my guess, and it is a guess, is that these will be pretty well the same monitor. Well, the most expensive one appears to have USB C in it's hub, i.e. a proper 2-way port as opposed to simply USB for display. No idea whether that's a big deal for you.<br /> <br /> Personally, I'd go for the cheapest. <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 19 Jan 20:35 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.6&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">19 Jan 21:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jan 21:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.7">43085.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_6" target="_self">43085.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I hadn't noticed the 2-way USB hub, and not currently sure how I feel about it. </p><p>I found a review of the QV saying "<i>One minor issue is the built-in power-save mode, which cannot be disabled</i>" - so I checked the manuals and it might be saying all Asus monitors are set to go to sleep after 10 minutes!? </p><p><i>> All ASUS products with the ENERGY STAR logo comply with the ENERGY <br />> STAR standard, and the power management feature is enabled by default. The <br />> monitor and computer are automatically set to sleep after 10 and 30 minutes of <br />> user inactivity.</i> </p><p>There's no mention of power management in the OSD section or elsewhere, and I can't find anything else online, so I'm hoping the reviewer just had a weird Windows quirk, and the statement is referring to monitor settings if you get an Asus computer, not a hard-coded timeout. <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.7&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">19 Jan 22:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jan 22:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.8">43085.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_7" target="_self">43085.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Again, no idea as I've never seen one of the Asus Pro Art monitors. That said, there are plenty of references online to energy-saving choices being part of the standard Pro Art menu choices. They simply wouldn't sell the range if they couldn't stay on unattended. You couldn't sit back and watch a film for instance.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.8&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">20 Jan 07:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Jan 13:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.9">43085.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.1">43085.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Probably not useful to you but I think with monitors we're at the point where anything in that kinda 200-300 price range will be decent. We've just kinda nailed the technology at this point and there doesn't seem to be any discernable difference between different panels. They're all *perfectly good enough*.<br /> <br /> I tell my monitors to not go to sleep at the driver level. I assume that would still work regardless of what settings the monitor itself exposes?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.9&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">20 Jan 10:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Jan 14:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.10">43085.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.5">43085.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Because 16:10 are more difficult to replace, apparently?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.10&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">23 Jan 10:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Jan 19:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.11">43085.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_10" target="_self">43085.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And that's because 16:9 panels are the same aspect ratio as TVs, and have less physical screen space than the equivalent 16:10 screen. Hence they are cheaper to produce, hence why so many manufacturers have "standardised" on them.<br /> <br /> 16:10 offers more screen space and greater height. Personally I prefer 16:10 screens because I find that they feel less cramped than 16:9 and are better suited for code, documents, web pages - basically anything where there's more height than width. Despite this, they still have sufficient width for gaming, watching videos etc, so strike that perfect sweet-spot between work and entertainment.<br /> <br /> @BOUGHTONP: I would recommend trying a 24" screen, they're not as big as you think, and 17" is remarkably small by modern standards. I went from a 19" 4:3 CRT to a 24" 16:10 screen back in t'olden days and quickly got used to the extra space. I then went up to a 27" screen, and then a few years ago (when that popped) I replaced it with a 30" 2560x1600 screen. Each time, I quickly got used to the extra screen space - such that if I work on a 24" screen now, it actually feels rather small. <br /> <br /> Right now, my home setup is a 30" 16:10 central monitor with two old Dell 20" 4:3 TFTs either side for when I'm working. The Dell screens (1600x1200) were liberated from the skip at work, and I find them super-useful for being able to see Outlook, Teams and my current work simultaneously, or for times when I'm working on multiple simultaneous spreadsheets. I struggle to cope now when I'm travelling and am restricted to one screen.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.11&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Jan 19:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Jan 14:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.12">43085.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_11" target="_self">43085.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I use a 1080p and 1024x1280 (WXGA?) dual monitor setup. If I want to work with several windows open at once, I prefer the side-by-side method with (e.g.) tool palettes on one display and work window on the other. TBH I don't think I was even aware that 16:10 displays were a thing. If I were arsed about screen real estate beyond my current needs, I might go for an hdpi display. I used one at work (a large-screen, relatively recent iMac), because that's what they had (unfortunately iMacs didn't support multiple displays), and I can't say I've missed it terribly since I retired.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.12&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">25 Jan 14:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jan 10:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.13">43085.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_12" target="_self">43085.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> 16:10 displays were the original aspect ratio when widescreen monitors first came along back in the mid-late 2000s. Pretty much all widescreen monitors were 16:10, as were widescreen laptop displays for a few years. Then enshitification came along as the manufacturers realised they could make cheaper screens by dropping to 16:9, and could market them more easily "Full HD" and all that, despite the resolution being less than their previous models (1920x1200 became 1920x1080 and all that).<br /> <br /> Now they're pretty rare, outside of screens aimed at professional users with calibrated colour and whatnot. Personally, I see them as being a downgrade and always have done.<br /> <br /> Thankfully they have returned to laptops in the past few years as they fit much better into the shape of a laptop chassis and avoid the massive top/bottom bezels that were common for a long time.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.13&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">25 Jan 15:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">14 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.14">43085.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I ordered the PA248QV from Asus Store on Wednesday, and received order confirmation emails. <p>By Friday, having received no dispatch confirmation, I phoned to ask what was up. Was told it was stuck on "processing" for an unknown reason. I would get notification by end of day or early tomorrow (i.e. by Saturday morning), because they needed to check with the warehouse. I got the impression the CS agent was fobbing me off, so was unsurprised by the not having received any email. </p><p>The Asus Store is operated by "FiveTech Ltd", which is a trading name for "Laptop Outlet", and if I had thought to check before ordering I would have seen large numbers of bad reviews, and ordered from elsewhere instead. </p><p>So now I guess I wait until Monday to see if they actually dispatch it, or I start the hassle of getting a refund and go somewhere reliable.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.14&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43085_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_43085_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Jan 10:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jan 14:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 39</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.15">43085.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43085.6#a43085_13" target="_self">43085.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm just glad they replaced CRT displays, and that I did too, 10-years later. Fetishizing tech is an expensive game.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43085.15&return_msg=43085.6" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43085.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="43085.16" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>