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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.0&return_msg=43047.7"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.21">21–24</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43047.7">Deadpool & Wolverine (2024) TWR</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43047_7_24_10"> <a name="a43047_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 17:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Aug 04:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7">43047.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.6">43047.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> For the MCU as a whole, actor deaths and accusations have played a part in changing the overall story arc.<br /> <br /> Sometimes, it's just highly enjoyable to see characters you love on the big screen. I'm a big fan of 80s and 90s Spider-Man cartoons and the 90s X-Men cartoon. Tobey's Spider-Man, X-Men and X2 were all a wonderful experience for me. I don't really care if they go anywhere.<br /> <br /> We're now at the point of saturation, there's so many superhero and special powers type films and TV shows, that it's hard to find something unique to enjoy about each one. Deadpool should be an easy hit, swearing, self-mockery and 4th wall breaks. It still needs a good story and good writers though.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.7&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Aug 14:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">8 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.8">43047.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I got some free* collectible Marvel cards at the supermarket today. Now I suppose I must go see the movie.<br /> <br /> <br /> *with >= $25 purchase</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.8&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 09:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 18:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.9">43047.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.1">43047.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Box office receipts passed $1,000,000,000 over the last weekend. As it's still out in theatres, it will probably overtake many box office faves such as Pirates of the Caribbean, Toy Story 4 etc. Mind you, in a list which includes Aquaman and the Super Mario Bros Movie, that's a sad way to succeed.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.9&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 Aug 11:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Aug 19:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.10">43047.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_9" target="_self">43047.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Cinema offerings have generally been rock-bottom terrible for quite some time.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.10&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">16 Aug 22:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 07:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.11">43047.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.6">43047.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OK. I largely agree. There's an emptiness to many of the stories, and I think you're description of the problem is pretty well correct. There's too much production and too little direction. In other words, all the great ideas are show-boated because the producers think that's where the money is, And, of course, the directors follow that lead because they get hired again and applauded by a cast of millions. But the stories are left behind and if they're even completed, it's an afterthought. And the stories are empty because they're just constructed to bind all the events (great ideas) together rather than being in any sense living, breathing things.<br /> <br /> Which, oddly, is where television series will win. It's because TV writers absolutely have to focus on stories. It's why the Loki TV series was superior to any of the movies featuring Loki, and ( I think) Marvel Agents of SHIELD was more engaging than the parallel movies.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.11&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 08:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 09:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.12">43047.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_11" target="_self">43047.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I used to think of the 80s as when cinema went wrong. When dumb action movies became the money-makers. But, looking back, something like Predator is fucking Shakespeare compared to what we get now.<br /> <br /> I've been listening to Chapo's <a href="https://fourble.co.uk/podcast/timeformysto2">Time for My Stories</a> where they talk about a bunch of prominent TV shows from recent decades (also Gunsmoke). They have a bunch of theses as they go through. One is that entertainment became political in a weird way. We want media to reflect our politics and we see our choice of media as a political choice. And, because there's *so much* media now, it's all microtargeted so we're just kinda watching reflections of ourselves. Lady Ghostbusters was feminist because it... had women in it, and if you don't like it you're a misogynist and watching it is a political statement, whether it's good or not is beside the point and if you focus on that you hate women.<br /> <br /> In their <a href="https://archive.org/download/timeformystories/09%20-%20Game%20of%20Thrones.mp3">Game of Thrones episode</a> (which is very good and you might enjoy) they identify GoT as being on the cusp of that change and as the last consensus reality. The last thing that everyone watched and agreed as to what it was.<br /> <br /> I don't think that's the whole problem but I think it's in there for sure.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.12&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 10:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 11:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.13">43047.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_12" target="_self">43047.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It definitely diverged before that (if I understood your point); LOTR spawned some nasty memes from the jingoes post 9-11.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.13&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 11:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 22:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.14">43047.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_13" target="_self">43047.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, the point isn't that nothing was differently-understood before (though honestly in that case I'd say the jingoists were reading Tolkien *right*). It's that we've reached a point where *nothing* can be commonly understood. <br /> <br /> All media is now overtly part of this shitty culture war that stands in for politics.<br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.14&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 22:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 08:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.15">43047.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_14" target="_self">43047.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think what's changed is that a lot of people have become highly misinformed, and highly opinionated about topics they neither knew or cared about previously. Influenced. That's by design.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.15&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43047_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_43047_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">18 Aug 09:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 14:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.16">43047.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43047.7#a43047_15" target="_self">43047.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think, over here at least, deregulation of the media (and, later, the internet of course) played a huge part.<br /> <br /> We've always been misinformed, but until the 90s or so we were misinformed according to the wishes of the state. Which is not *good* but does at least lead to coherence. <br /> <br /> Now we're misinformed by the market and we can choose our misinformation. And as scientists and other experts bent to the whims of the market they discredited themselves, so we lost any sense of there being any reliable universal authority.<br /> <br /> And in an environment where huge numbers of people have, for the past 40 years, been economically immiserated, socially atomised, politically disenfranchised and culturally demonised, that's a real problem when there's no left speaking to them.<br /> <br /> It's socialism or barbarism and there's not a whiff of socialism.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43047.16&return_msg=43047.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43047.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="43047.17" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>