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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.0&return_msg=43033.8"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.11">11–14</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43033.8">JonCooper was right</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43033_8_14_10"> <a name="a43033_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">14 May 20:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 May 21:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8">43033.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.6">43033.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There's music that I like. I know what genres and artists I enjoy and all that.<br /> <br /> But I'm not *interested* in it, beyond being immediately engaged with it in a moment. There doesn't seem to be anything to talk about with music, as there is with visual art or tv shows or games or whatever. I can be sitting there and, like, I dunno, Minnie Ripperton's Les Fleurs comes into my head. And I'll go oh I love that song and go and listen to it and love it. But then I'm done. Any more music after that rapidly becomes aggravating.<br /> <br /> And that's a song I love. Most music I hear is not songs I love and a lot is songs I don't like at all.<br /> <br /> And music is fucking *evvverrrrwhere*. More so out in the real world of course. But even in my indoor-life, every game, tv show, movie, podcast. Pretty much any time-based media will have music in it, and 99% of the time I wish it weren't there, it's incongruous and unpleasant.<br /> <br /> So what I mean when I say I don't like music is that for the most part, for me, it's detrimental to my experience rather than... posimentral ( <span class="emoticon e_pipe" title=":-Y"><span class="e__">:-Y</span></span> ). <br /> <br /> So, on balance, if I were being selfish, I'd prefer a world where music didn't exist.<br /> <br /> (@Milko, I like Run the Jewels!)<br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 14 May 20:57 by X3N0PH0N</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.8&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">14 May 21:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 May 21:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.9">43033.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_8" target="_self">43033.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> God stole my reply and cast it into the pit. Unless it emerges in another universe. Or possibly I hit a combination of keys which the demon Gates does not allow.<br /> <br /> I think music exists as a thing that we either love or hate at a given point in our lives. I think it is a part of how we stand in relation to the expression of musicians. Some of it is pitiful and some of it is transcendent. Being a musician is just another special case of attempting to stand in relation to our fellow humans, like writing, painting, sculpting, whatever. <br /> <br /> Yeah, maybe you don't like music.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.9&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">14 May 21:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 May 13:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.10">43033.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_9" target="_self">43033.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I agree that it is all that. But it rarely feels any of that for me.<br /> <br /> I think that's okay though. Some people don't like ballet and that's fine. It's the everywherness of music which makes me feel like I *should* like it more, I think.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 14 May 21:40 by X3N0PH0N</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.10&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">15 May 13:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 May 18:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.11">43033.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_10" target="_self">43033.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm not sure I'd get by without hearing Robert Wyatt singing and playing his way through Moon in June at least once a month.<br /> <br /> I still have a concern over what counts as liking music, for instance how often and under what circumstances it should be listened to. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.11&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">15 May 18:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 May 20:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.12">43033.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_11" target="_self">43033.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's the 'on balance, I'd prefer a world without music' that clinches it I think.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.12&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">15 May 22:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 09:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.13">43033.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_12" target="_self">43033.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Do you think that you once did like music? Is it a kind of gradually reducing interest/appreciation until now you realise you no longer like it, or do you think you never liked it?<br /> <br /> Edit: re-reading some of the posts, including your first, you've answered this in part. the realisation at least was gradual "As the years have yeared, I've realised...". I suppose what's interesting is why some people might claim that they do enjoy it.<br /> <br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 16 May 08:01 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.13&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43033_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_43033_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">16 May 09:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 14:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 14</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.14">43033.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43033.8#a43033_13" target="_self">43033.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I used to listen to music more in the past. Though I never listened to it as much or cared about it as much as my peers.<br /> <br /> Aaactually, as a young kid I didn't really like music at all. I remember on Saturday morning TV they'd have sections where popular band would play latest song and my friends were often into it and I found it interminably boring. That's not to say I hated *all* music I heard but I hated most, and loved none.<br /> <br /> The first time I loved music was when I heard Straight Outta Compton when I was 12 or so. That was the first time when I understood what people felt when they listened to music.<br /> <br /> From there I branched out a bit into blues, funk, classical, jazz even country and bluegrass and stuff. And those are still the genres I enjoy from time to time.<br /> <br /> So I'd say... yeah, from 13ish to 18ish I liked music more than I do now. And, as you said, it was part of a time in my life, part of growing up and figuring out what I like and don't.<br /> <br /> But now I feel more like I did as a young kid. Maybe a new genre will awaken my music-liking again at some point!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43033.14&return_msg=43033.8" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43033.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>