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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.0&return_msg=43022.9"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.11">11–16</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43022.9">Builders</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43022_9_16_10"> <a name="a43022_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 12:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">9 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9">43022.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Funnily enough they're sort of back today! A surveyor went in to see what's going on and if their plans can even be done. Apparently they're trying to find a new contractor to do whatever work, but it's the same owners and management company still.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.9&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 16:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 15:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.10">43022.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_9" target="_self">43022.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> We do things different here.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/toronto-skyscraper-with-1-7-billion-of-debt-has-been-put-in-receivership-1.1987048">https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/toronto-skyscraper-with-1-7-billion-of-debt-has-been-put-in-receivership-1.1987048</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.10&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 16:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Apr 17:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.11">43022.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_10" target="_self">43022.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Only 40 of the proposed 85 storeys. Half-cocked comes to mind.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.11&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 17:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Apr 19:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.12">43022.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_11" target="_self">43022.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The developer was inexperienced. Glad the banks were willing to overlook that!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.12&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 19:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 15:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.13">43022.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_9" target="_self">43022.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I suppose the thing is, there's a limit to what you can do with a terraced property. I mean, extension, two storey extension, roof extension. And then you get into issues with planning consent. But there's no limit to the problems that a yippee-yi-yo posse of builders can cause.<br /> <br /> Next door, a more down-to-earth pair of builders have become regulars. They've already done more in a week than Patrick managed in two months. I was very impressed yesterday. Two of them manouevered a huge new roof steel in through a tiny hole they'd cut in the wall with no more than well-placed straps. By evening the hole was patched. The neighbour says it's all in place and they've already started on new wooden joists.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.13&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Gobfounded (YVE)<span class="message_time"> 4 Apr 21:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 13:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.14">43022.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_13" target="_self">43022.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You can build a bungalow, sorry a home gym, in the back garden of a terrace!<br /> <br /> Our issues with neighbour's building work have been mild, compared with yours. When we moved in here, just over 6 years ago - also a 1930s semi detached chalet bungalow, which we love because we have 3 small doubles upstairs and downstairs is massive - there was an old guy with what I suspect was parkinson's next door. He was past being lucid. After he died, the house eventually sold to the same wannabe landlord who also bought 2 other nearby houses. He's a cheapskate, taking advantage of eye watering rents here, near the hospital and university, so thankfully wasn't so ambitious with his plans. He employed some seasoned bodgers to tweak it and literally paint over the mould, though.<br /> <br /> The first we knew of them was a day of guys bringing the crap out of the garden across the road and dumping it in the front garden next door. Oh, you should expect some mess with building work, they said to Wib. Wib is too nice because the pile got bigger and bigger and they only got someone to take away what they couldn't hide in or behind the shed when they needed room for an estate agent to take pics.<br /> <br /> They paid someone to spend a day bagging up all the red gravel in the front garden, after that, so they could replace it with grey gravel. Within a month you couldn't see it for the weeds they hadn't touched.<br /> <br /> They badly painted the ugly grey pebbledash. To do that, they removed the guttering and didn't put it back at all for weeks and then eventually put it back badly. The result was all that heavy rain from those storms at the end of last summer pissed all over our front wall with the inevitable consequences.<br /> <br /> Some mugs did move in, back in October. Our front doors are at opposite sides of a 50' wide building so they have managed to avoid us in all that time.<br /> <br /> As well as a leaky roof (not fixed by the bodgers even though the bedroom ceilings were badly water stained in the estate agent pics) they had obviously complained about the crap in the shed because a hippo bag appeared in the front garden at the start of this year. They're no better than the landlord and his bodgers because they seemed to be using it instead of the wheel bins for their own rubbish like shoe boxes, yoghurt pots, bags of carrots, the packaging off the flat pack they assembled at midnight, one Sunday....<br /> <br /> Wib has stopped being too nice and complained to the council about that mess, as it was blowing into our garden and we already have too many rats around here, so that finally went last week. The poor guy had to use his wheelie bin, like the rest of us.<br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 4 Apr 21:49 by YVE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.14&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 6 Apr 15:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 15:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.15">43022.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.9#a43022_9" target="_self">43022.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Worked out that we have new neighbours! Fairly sure that some foxes have moved in. Good luck to ‘em. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.15&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43022_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_43022_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">15 Apr 13:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">16 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43022.16">43022.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> But wait, there's more!<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/gta-contractor-complaints-1.7171738">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/gta-contractor-complaints-1.7171738</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43022.16&return_msg=43022.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43022.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>