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It was a weird mix of people wearing masks or not, indoors and outdoors, I didn't really know what to do and clearly many others the same! It was fucking hot which didn't help with the desire to keep it on. Fortunately I was able to keep away from crowds throughout.<br /> <br /> Shops and trains seem about the same as before in terms of mask-wearing, thankfully. I'm back working at home again now, at least until August 8th when I'm doing another cricket.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.3&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">24 Jul 2021 21:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Jul 2021 06:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.4">42797.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.1">42797.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Sainsbury's tonight definitely had <em>more</em> people than usual wearing masks - perhaps around 70-80%, possibly higher. <p>Was very different to Tesco earlier in the week, which I guess was around 50% - it seemed a bit less than usual ~60% levels, but could also have been random variation / sample bias.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.4&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">25 Jul 2021 07:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jul 2021 21:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.5">42797.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.2#a42797_4" target="_self">42797.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I forgot my daughter is staying with us for a week when I went did our main shopping trip, so I had to nip into Tesco for more stuff on Saturday, later in the day than usual. More unmasked people, but my (unscientific) estimate still had masked at >90%. The worst offenders by far were the staff, but even they were way over 50%, maybe as high as 70%. I can't imagine it's pleasant to wear a mask for an 8-12 hour shift.<br /> <br /> I don't enjoy wearing one either, but for the minor inconvenience of an hour while I shop it doesn't feel like a high price to reduce the risk of inhaling or passing on a lungful of virus-laden particulates.<br /> <br /> Your local levels of 50%-60% are certainly far lower than anything I've ever seen around here.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.5&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">25 Jul 2021 08:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Jul 2021 09:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.6">42797.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.1">42797.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Still 2 days a week in the office and don't plan to change that, no one seems to be pushing a change either. Work has suffered quite badly in the last month or so from staff shortages due to "pingdemic" and positive cases. No doubt it's the highest figures we've had throughout all of this.<br /> <br /> Re: mask wearing, we have to wear one in the office at our desk, not just whilst moving through the buildings. I do it, I don't mind it. Still wearing one whilst in shops etc. Screwfix and B&Q yesterday had what I thought a surprisingly high number of mask wearers, possibly >90%. Supermarkets noticeably lower. Though I don't find that there's any correlation with appearance or perceived social status of a person and mask wearing. Much like the anti-vax movement, I feel it touches all parts of society.<br /> <br /> I'm double jabbed, but not willing to risk finding out what might happen especially whilst having an underlying condition that could result in a significantly worse outcome than many. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.6&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">25 Jul 2021 09:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jul 2021 07:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.7">42797.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.2#a42797_6" target="_self">42797.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">I don't find that there's any correlation with appearance or perceived social status of a person and mask wearing</div> <br /> True. It may be my imagination, though, but I feel there's an air of righteousness about the non-wearers.<br /> <br /> I don't have any particular underlying condition other than some common 65 year old complaints (a touch of hypertension, poor thyroid function and arthritis) but I'm not willing to risk things either.<br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.7&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">26 Jul 2021 07:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jul 2021 08:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.8">42797.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.2#a42797_7" target="_self">42797.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">True. It may be my imagination, though, but I feel there's an air of righteousness about the non-wearers.</div> <br /> Would agree, but also feel like it could be my imagination.<br /> <br /> Another trip to B&Q yesterday, high levels of mask wearing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.8&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Jul 2021 10:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">9 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.9">42797.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Oddly enough I'm seeing more mask wearing and social distancing since we opened up coupla weeks ago, on the subway and in some neighborhoods / shopping districts.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.9&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">26 Jul 2021 21:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2021 08:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.10">42797.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.2#a42797_5" target="_self">42797.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well I've never been at 7am so don't know how much is location versus the types of people that shop late. <p>I'm fairly sure levels were higher a year ago and have gradually declined, but I can't remember too clearly and wouldn't stake anything important on that. </p><p>One correlation might be people in groups being even less likely (compared to individuals/couples), but I guess that's self-selective given the request not to do that in the first place.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.10&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42797_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42797_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2021 08:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2021 15:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.11">42797.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42797.2#a42797_10" target="_self">42797.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was a bit later this morning - only by 30 minutes though. More uncovered faces, but probably still only 1 in 10. <br /> <br /> What I do see at that time is people doing things like building work etc. who are going to start at 8:00. They often arrive in groups of 2 or 3 and often didn't bother with masks when it was compulsory. I suppose there's peer pressure as well.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42797.11&return_msg=42797.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42797.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42797.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>