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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.0&return_msg=42766.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.11">11</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42766.1">Off Site Storage-medo</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42766_1_11_10"> <a name="a42766_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 15:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1">42766.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Looking for some sort of backup solution.<br /> <br /> Currently got a Crashplan account from way back when they were cheap, but they've not been cheap for a long while and I'm paying $11.99/month for something I haven't backed-up to in around 8-12 months. Apparently I've got 5.6 TB there.<br /> <br /> The client is awful and often caused my home server to grind to a halt.<br /> <br /> Did briefly look at Backblaze but when I last looked they didn't play nice with Linux on their normal plans.<br /> <br /> Thinking I could basically roll my own by finding some sort of remote storage solution.<br /> Basically just need maybe 5-10 TB in a data center that I just rsync to. Or figure out some sort of file history thing for it.<br /> <br /> Had a search but not sure if what I have in mind exists within reasonable prices.<br /> <br /> Ideally I'd like to spend about what I am now.<br /> <br /> Google offer 10TB but for £39.99/month. Not paying that.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.1&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 15:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 2021 15:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.2">42766.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_1" target="_self">42766.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Or do I just get a big hard drive and an RPi and stick it at my parents?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.2&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 15:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 2021 15:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.3">42766.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_2" target="_self">42766.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Though the internet connection will be pants in comparison to a data center.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.3&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 15:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 2021 18:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.4">42766.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_2" target="_self">42766.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's possible, but I wouldn't like to trust my only backup to a single hard drive. And once you consider maybe two drives and/or possibly a NAS with redundancy, it again gets expensive.<br /> <br /> Saying that, surely the bandwidth limitation is your upload speed - unless your parents have a rather crappy broadband service?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.4&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 17:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 2021 18:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.5">42766.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_3" target="_self">42766.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You could always prepopulate the drive(s), then do incremental backups.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.5&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 18:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Apr 2021 18:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.6">42766.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_5" target="_self">42766.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah that's exactly what I'd do. Fill with initial data and then nightly afterwards. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.6&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Apr 2021 18:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 2021 07:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.7">42766.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_4" target="_self">42766.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've currently got<br /> Main Home Server - with an amount of storage, maybe around 10TB<br /> Storage server - currently with 2 x 14TB drives in a ZFS mirrored array.<br /> <br /> Plan is to migrate the lot to the Storage server which will backup to itself. Somehow.<br /> <br /> Then I wanted a copy off site.<br /> I suppose the upload speed at parents isn't an issue for recovery, since if I wanted the full backup I'd literally go and get it. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.7&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time"> 6 Apr 2021 07:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Apr 2021 07:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.8">42766.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_7" target="_self">42766.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye, I suppose that's the main advantage of an off-site backup at a location that you can physically access still.<br /> <br /> I have a "backup to itself" system in place on my main PC at present incidentally. Backup hard drives (which are not mounted by default), script runs once a week to mount the drive, do an incremental backup then unmount it again. Process has worked well so far - combined with an external backup as well of course.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.8&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 6 Apr 2021 13:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 2021 13:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.9">42766.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_8" target="_self">42766.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My PLEX disks are backed up every night to a duplicate set in the same box. My laptop and Mrs WmA's laptop do file history backups throughout the day to a Raspberry Pi and these disks are backed up with an Rsync to a duplicate set. Other bits of kit around the place are backed up/duplicated as well (plus I keep all my important docs and things on an Owncloud server). I suppose I really should look at something "off-site" even if it's some ethernet string and an extension running out to the shed.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.9&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42766_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42766_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time"> 6 Apr 2021 13:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Apr 2021 15:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 11</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.10">42766.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42766.1#a42766_9" target="_self">42766.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's honestly got me thinking, I have an old NAS (liberated from work) with 4.5TB capacity. Currently it sits on my desk and I do periodic backups to it. I'm considering running a network cable to the far loft corner of my garage and sitting it there. OK it's not really offsite, but would stand a much, much bigger chance of surviving either a fire or a burglary.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42766.10&return_msg=42766.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42766.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42766.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>