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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.0&return_msg=42746.5"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.21">21–27</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42746.5">Poo</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42746_5_27_10"> <a name="a42746_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">31 Jan 2021 12:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 Jan 2021 12:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5">42746.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.4">42746.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The Ryzens should be pretty good. Not sure how they compare to your previous CPU mind you, might need to check a few reviews.<br /> <br /> For my last build it was pretty straightforward as my old CPU was a 1st Gen Core i5 750, so pretty much *anything* was faster!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.5&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">31 Jan 2021 12:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 Jan 2021 13:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.6">42746.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_5" target="_self">42746.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My idea about a Ryzen 5 was based on about 30 seconds research round about when I bought a new case. That purchase was inspired by an earlier opening of my ancient Antec case to (finally) investigate what had been rattling (tiny piece of card got into a fan) and thinking how ghastly it was. <br /> <br /> I'll have to do a bit of reading. But hopefully not - as I'm actually quite happy with the i5. Knowing my luck, both mobo and PSU will have gone together.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.6&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">31 Jan 2021 19:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 Jan 2021 19:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.7">42746.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_6" target="_self">42746.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well, the PSU seems OK having successfully powered up my Plex/backup box without any complaint (apart from me moaning as I threaded the 24 pin connector through a rats' nest of wiring).<br /> <br /> So, last try before I give up and spend more money is to strip down and rebuild the PC to rule out any accidental prods and tweaks from installing the new card earlier*. I have my doubts. I think it's probably a failure on the motherboard. It could be the CPU I suppose, but that means replacement anyway.<br /> <br /> 25 mins later, failed to POST basic configuration with CPU, cooler, 1 DIMM, 1 boot drive...and that means replacement <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span><br /> <br /> I suppose building will be quite fun once the spender's guilt has died down. I suppose I could ebay the mobo and CPU as "one or both not working". The GA Z97X working goes for north of £100 which is stupid money and the i5 4690K for around £60.<br /> <br /> AAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!! BOLLOX to this computer shit! So I unplug front USB and sound and swapped one DIMM for another. It POSTs and goes to a "previous boot failure" screen. This makes me wonder whether the new NVME drive has failed. Before I do anything, I just power off and power on. No POST. So just out of curiosity I remove the NVME drive. And yep, this time I get a "missing boot drive" screen. So I power down, add a USB mouse and keyboard, and power on. No POST. Power off, take out mouse and keyboard. Power on. "Missing boot drive" screen. So I add the mouse and keyboard back and hit reset. This time I'm able to get into the BIOS. Load defaults and restart. No POST!!!!!<br /> <br /> My best guess is a fault like a broken solder joint. One last strip down and rebuild tomorrow, and a check of the motherboard and everything else really, for anything obvious<br /> <br /> *and the original, and a GT710 in a x1 slot</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.7&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2021 08:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2021 09:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.8">42746.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_7" target="_self">42746.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> ((((WmA)))) An intermittent fault is the worst. It could still be an inadequate or dying PSU, managing to boot a less power-hungry system, but falling over as the more demanding one boots, and the failure expressing as a failure to adequately power various components more or less at random. A new PSU isn't the most expensive item and it sounds as if it could do with replacement soon even if it's not, ultimately, the guilty party.<br /> <br /> Although your symptoms aren't anything like they ought to be, it might also be worth swapping out the BIOS battery, if only because it's cost-free.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.8&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2021 11:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2021 11:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.9">42746.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_7" target="_self">42746.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Have you tried to see if it will post without a drive in? Sometimes the SATA addressing can get messed up (my fanciful attempt at an explanation), and if you move the drive to another plug on the MB AFTER posting with no drive connected. Anyway it worked for me once or twice for hdds on two different-gen mobos. Maybe it makes the bios reset, I dunno, I'm more of a trial-and-error type of fixer.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 1 Feb 2021 11:39 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.9&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2021 11:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2021 12:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.10">42746.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_8" target="_self">42746.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I put a new battery in when I changed the case. And, yes, I know it could still be the PSU <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span><br /> <br /> It successfully powered my other PC though, which is fairly well loaded with components - i7 with loads of drives. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.10&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.10"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2021 11:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2021 12:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.11">42746.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_9" target="_self">42746.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yep, tried it with no drives. Booted to the BIOS once then failed to boot when I turned it off and on.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.11&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2021 13:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2021 13:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.12">42746.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_11" target="_self">42746.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OK - had another go with a totally rebuilt, minimal, PC. Still no POST. Swapped the PSU into the Plex server again and it works perfectly.<br /> <br /> Off to PCpartpicker!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.12&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 5 Feb 2021 23:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Feb 2021 23:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.13">42746.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_12" target="_self">42746.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Just to complete the story, I am now chugging along with a Ryzen 5 3600, MSI B550 Mortar, EVGA 1660 Super, and 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 3600 memory. PSU still holding out.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 7 Feb 2021 11:28 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.13&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42746_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_42746_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time"> 6 Feb 2021 11:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Feb 2021 11:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.14">42746.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42746.5#a42746_13" target="_self">42746.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Very nice!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42746.14&return_msg=42746.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42746.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42746.15" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>