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Which almost feels a bit sad if it wasn't for the fact that she seems relatively happy (if understandably disappointed) about it, and at least she will be seeing everyone eventually while making some effort to keep everyone separate and safe.<br /> <br /> The fact that I'm on the other side of the world means I can't do much about it other than a Skype call, so there's not much point worrying about it. Personally, we're off round a friend/colleague's house for a barbecue on the day - we'll put up with their kids for as long as we can manage before we decamp back to our own child-free and peaceful house.<br /> <br /> Because we're not living under any real restrictions any more (apart from international travel) over here, I honestly can't imagine what it must be like for people in other countries. I kind of imagine that it must be the polar opposite of what we have, but then I hear that pubs are still open as long as you're eating, and people are effectively allowed to move around as much as they want but only in small groups (presumably the virus can't see groups of less than, is it 6 people?) and not all meeting at the same time.<br /> <br /> Doesn't that just make the restrictions a bit pointless? Surely the virus will still spread to everyone, just on different days.<br /> <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.5&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">14 Dec 2020 17:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Dec 2020 21:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.6">42722.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.1">42722.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> May be technically or morally breaking the rules. Not sure which. Been bubbling with my girlfriend at hers since late April (who is /still/ furloughed), so I guess we're technically a single household now. Either way, she's going to her family, which will be a max of 3 at that side. And I'm going to one of my brother's with my parents, so that's 3 on that side, I think other brother and his girlfriend are going to spend it together at theirs. They did originally have a meal booked, but literally no idea what's the situation with that. I guess splitting our household is wrong, but we've decided to do it reluctantly for a few reasons. I've hardly seen any family during all this, which includes my 1.75 yr old nephew who is growing up very quickly and I feel I'm missing out on being a part of his life. Girlfriend can't comprehend not seeing her brother or parents over the period, which I get.<br /> <br /> We've gone back and forth multiple times about what's right and best. Then there's the possibility that she could be called in to work over the Christmas period, which could throw plans up in the air anyway, so God knows. Between us we've been very well behaved when it comes the to rules in general and the only time we're really around anyone would be in a supermarket. I'm WFH full time again, so my risk of getting/having it is low, as is hers.<br /> <br /> God knows how relatively medium/large sized families are doing things. In one sense I'm thankful I don't have any grandparents to worry about during all this. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.6&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">14 Dec 2020 21:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2020 05:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.7">42722.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_5" target="_self">42722.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Exactly right. <br /> <br /> But then, the whole management of the disease in the UK has been driven by a series of incompatible requirements: appeal to the core activist base who barely believe that there actually is a pandemic; appeal to the money men who won't allow the flow of public funds into their pockets to be slowed by anything so trivial; try to appear at least partly sane to the majority of the electorate (optional aim); don't allow Johnson to look either indecisive or less-than-caring. Actual control of the pandemic, prevention and care of those infected is down to the public sector, which gets by with the normal level of funding while eye-watering mountains of cash are poured into private enterprise. By that I mean, very private - as in, the money vanishes in unknown and unexamined ways with no observable impact on anything other than the wealth of the recipients.<br /> <br /> And, yes. It's all a bit pointless, because the virus will spread over Christmas, because a little bit of prevention just means it will be marginally slower - but of course, faster than if we were still locked down. <br /> <br /> Your Christmas sounds wonderful.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.7&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2020 09:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2020 11:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.8">42722.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_6" target="_self">42722.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think (but don't know!) that if you go to your respective families for the 5 day Great Virus Armistice then you're technically fine, reset on the 28th and all is back to normal. If you split for just xmas day for example and then come back together, then doom be upon ye, for ye just made a 6 household mix.<br /> <br /> It's all a bit silly really, obviously it's the same mix either way.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.8&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2020 11:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">9 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.9">42722.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I tested positive a week ago last Thursday and me & Mrs.D have been in quarantine. I just got out yesterday, she's in for three more days (even though she tested negative). We put our christmas tree in the hall so we can both see it. This all has nothing to do with anything.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Dec 2020 11:40 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_attachments"> <span>Attachments:</span> <ul> <li><span class="image attach"></span><a href="get_attachment.php?webtag=DEFAULT&hash=5b513652b583bb64625262a9dab6c6fe&filename=IMG_20201211_071955.jpg" target="_blank">IMG_20201211_071955.jpg</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.9&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2020 16:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Dec 2020 12:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.10">42722.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_9" target="_self">42722.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Positive with no symptoms? Hope you're both okay.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.10&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2020 16:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2020 20:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.11">42722.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_8" target="_self">42722.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And now experts are saying we shouldn't be mixing at Christmas anyway, and that it's a very bad idea.<br /> I think the fact that a vaccine is rolling out people think we're home and dry, when in fact we're not even close and any rule relaxing will result in deaths.<br /> <br /> A case of how many extra deaths is deemed "acceptable" since it's just a stat now.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.11&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2020 20:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2020 22:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.12">42722.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_11" target="_self">42722.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And now an anxious wait to see what changes they actually decide on this week, if any. I suppose in typical Tory fashion it will come via leaks and rumour so they can modify it according to whatever howls the press make during the week. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.12&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">16 Dec 2020 06:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Dec 2020 07:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.13">42722.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.1">42722.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'll be doing the normal walk on Christmas Eve with my kids and their partners to give each of the Doubler Stones on Addingham Moor a bottle of beer. Although it's four households, as it's outdoors and known to be a tad breezy up there, I'm content that it's Covid-compliant.<br /> <br /> Christmas day will be at Charlotte's, with her son and daughter. Our Christmas meal was going to be at a local restaurant, but unless Kirklees drops from tier three to two, that's not going to happen. If things stay the same, the restaurant has proposed a (cheaper) Chritmas meal in a box which we'll go for.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.13&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42722_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_42722_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 Dec 2020 12:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Dec 2020 14:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.14">42722.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42722.5#a42722_10" target="_self">42722.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> We seem to be ok. We had a mild flu in mid-November, MrsD had a a persistent cough after so her doctor said we should get tested. She's been on antibiotics which seem to have cleared up her cough.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42722.14&return_msg=42722.5" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42722.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42722.15" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>