Mobile with five row qwerty hardware keyboard - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.0&return_msg=42677.9"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.11">11–16</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42677.9">Mobile with five row qwerty hardware keyboard</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42677_9_16_10"> <a name="a42677_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2020 14:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2020 15:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9">42677.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.8">42677.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Debian doesn't care, but the programs are generally developed for a laptop or desktop sized screen. Let's say 10" and above. My guess is UI and UX will not be smooth or really all that usable. Touchscreen for a PC-like UI on a screen that small? Can't imagine it would be nice.<br /> <br /> I'd honestly love it to be fantastic, it would be great to see. But I think it being a "Just Works" device is unlikely.<br /> <br /> And on Sailfish, length of development time is slightly irrelevant. If there's not many people using it then it's unlikely to progress and improve. I realise mass market OSes are dumbed down somewhat, but I doubt a no market OS will be so great. <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Sep 2020 14:52 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.9&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2020 16:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2020 17:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.10">42677.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9#a42677_9" target="_self">42677.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It feels like you're inventing problems based on misconceptions about what you think I want. <p>I would get one of these devices <em>even without touchscreen functionality</em>. </p><p>Anything that doesn't work close enough to the way I want, I'll replace and/or fix.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.10&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2020 17:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2020 16:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.11">42677.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9#a42677_10" target="_self">42677.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You'll replace and/or fix hardware issues?<br /> <br /> Fair enough, I'm probably making up my own use scenario here.<br /> What would be your use scenario for it? Genuinely curious as to what you'd use it for and how much use you'd get out of it. Especially when primarily using a full OS. <br /> <br /> I really liked my past keyboard smartphones, I think I've owned 3. With one probably still being the favourite phone I've ever owned - Sony Ericsson Xperia X1. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.11&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2020 16:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2020 16:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.12">42677.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9#a42677_11" target="_self">42677.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>When I had my G1, I would easily jot down things when they occurred to me, and could admin servers without half the screen being obscured - I can't do those with current devices. </p><p>What I've never been able to do is quickly prototype ideas to check their feasibility, or simply run scripts and applications written in any language I wanted. </p><p>I noticed that <a href="https://www.www3.planetcom.co.uk/">Planet Computers</a> (the company behind the Gemini/Cosmo) are planning a 5G slider device for next year - likely to be popular amongst people who don't like clamshell but still want a keyboard... </p><p><a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transformer">https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transformer</a></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.12&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2020 20:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2020 16:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.13">42677.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.8">42677.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.8">Peter (BOUGHTONP)</a></div> <div class="quote">The roots of Sailfish go back fifteen years - three years before Android - why wouldn't it be ready?</div> <p> <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":-|"><span class="e__">:-|</span></span> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.13&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 4 Nov 2020 09:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2020 16:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.14">42677.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.1">42677.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Another with 5 rows<br /> <br /> <a href="https://linuxgizmos.com/privacy-focused-smartphone-runs-lineageos-or-ubuntu-touch/">https://linuxgizmos.com/privacy-focused-smartphone-runs-lineageos-or-ubuntu-touch/</a> <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.14&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Nov 2020 13:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Nov 2020 14:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.15">42677.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9#a42677_14" target="_self">42677.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Indiegogo. Hmmm.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.15&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42677_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_42677_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2020 17:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2020 17:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 16</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.16">42677.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42677.9#a42677_14" target="_self">42677.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Got one of those dumb arse curved edge screens though. <span class="emoticon e_horror" title=":&"><span class="e__">:&</span></span> <p>Still nice to see the successful proliferation of these devices, proving there <em>is</em> a market for them.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42677.16&return_msg=42677.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42677.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>