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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.0&return_msg=42456.4"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.11">11–12</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42456.4">Let's not encrypt</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42456_4_12_10"> <a name="a42456_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 18:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 19:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4">42456.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.3">42456.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I use one on my OwnCloud server, but I think it's good for 2 years (or 3, I can't remember). Then I'll have to try to work out how to renew it. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.4&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 19:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 19:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.5">42456.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_4" target="_self">42456.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You paid for it right? 80 bucks a year here, Let's Encrypt ssl is free (which is probably why they have it expire so quickly)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.5&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 19:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 20:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.6">42456.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_5" target="_self">42456.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Nope. As far as I remember it was free and it hangs off Certbot. The only time I had to do anything at all to it was when they stopped TLS-SNI-01 validation at the end of January (or February?). It lasts for a couple of years and then I have to ask nicely if I can do it all again.<br /> <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.6&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 20:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 21:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.7">42456.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_6" target="_self">42456.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah right, that's the automagic version that won't run on my Ubuntu 14.04 PPC server. <span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'-("><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'-("><span class="e__">:'-(</span></span></span></span> <br /> <br /> I guess 2-minutes attention every 60-days isn't too terrible.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.7&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 21:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 23:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.8">42456.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.3">42456.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Automating the process on any standard LAMP server is a piece of piss, and Certbot documentation is easy to follow. <p>Doing it on a JVM server like Jetty is a pain, and the (<em>usually</em> helpful) Jetty devs wont help. In another month or so I'll find out if I've done enough.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.8&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 22:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 22:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.9">42456.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_6" target="_self">42456.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <i>> It lasts for a couple of years</i> <p>Then it's <em>not</em> Let's Encrypt - as per their FAQ: </p><blockquote>"Our certificates are valid for 90 days. You can read about why <a href="https://letsencrypt.org/2015/11/09/why-90-days.html">here</a>. <p>There is no way to adjust this, there are no exceptions. We recommend automatically renewing your certificates every 60 days."</p></blockquote> <p>However it could be you're using Certbot with another service - since the ISRG aren't idiots, they created a standardised protocol (ACME), and there are several other CAs that use it now.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.9&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 22:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Sep 2019 23:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.10">42456.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_9" target="_self">42456.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's definitely Let's Encrypt with Certbot because I went and had a look through my emails when I saw this thread. But I can't even remember installing it all. And ACME does ring a bell. I suppose I should go and check before it all stops working. I do vaguely remember that there's a limit of around a couple of years before I have to reapply to use it - presumably as opposed to expiry.<br /> <br /> Anyway, my more immediate concern is whether to update to the latest version of OwnCloud since they withdrew their nice simple upgrade script.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.10&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2019 23:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2019 18:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.11">42456.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.4#a42456_8" target="_self">42456.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> " a piece of piss "<br /> <br /> Not on my server (there are no certbot packages for it). The Let's Encrypt manual route is far, far simpler.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 24 Sep 2019 23:58 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.11&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42456_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_42456_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2019 07:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2019 09:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.12">42456.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42456.2">42456.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Chrome Canary with Bitdefender chucking up dark warnings, but letting me through all the same.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42456.12&return_msg=42456.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42456.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>