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Apparently Germany was a Liberal Democracy and yet 4 years later was in the hands of a dictator with a government of murderers. Seems that it was as much about ruthless personal ambition and a desire to hold onto power by more moderate politicians as it was about extreme ideology. Just saying.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.172&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.172"> <span class="rating">+4/4</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_173"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_173"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">28 Aug 2019 13:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Aug 2019 13:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">173 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.173">42264.173</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_172" target="_self">42264.172</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What's happening is scary.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.173&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.173"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_174"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_174"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 Aug 2019 20:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Aug 2019 07:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">174 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.174">42264.174</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_172" target="_self">42264.172</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I could see Irritable Duncan Syndrome filling Joseph Goebbels' shoes.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.174&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.174"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_175"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_175"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 3 Sep 2019 23:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">175 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.175">42264.175</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Fuck me if it hasn't all gone sideways. In a good way.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.175&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.175"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_176"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_176"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Sep 2019 06:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Sep 2019 09:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">176 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.176">42264.176</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_175" target="_self">42264.175</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm not counting chickens yet. My rule of thumb is to ask "what would a bunch of spoilt, entitled, schoolboys do now?" It won't necessarily be clever, but it's likely to be vicious. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.176&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.176"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_177"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_177"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 4 Sep 2019 07:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Sep 2019 07:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">177 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.177">42264.177</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_176" target="_self">42264.176</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I just tweeted along these lines this morning:<br /> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">There will be many more twists before Brexit is resolved (inasmuch as it ever will be), but today I am enjoying the apoplectic rage of the Tory cabinet at parliament refusing to comply with their crude attempts at manipulation. It says so much about their sense of entitlement.</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.177&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.177"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_178"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_178"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Sep 2019 09:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Sep 2019 09:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">178 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.178">42264.178</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_176" target="_self">42264.176</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The vicious is getting old, beginning to look more like helpless thrashing about and self-harming. What chances do you give the "people vs parliament" shtick?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.178&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.178"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42264_179"></a><div class="message" id="message_42264_179"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Sep 2019 10:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Sep 2019 12:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">179 of 200</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.179">42264.179</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42264.170#a42264_178" target="_self">42264.178</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's a hard one to call. H L Mencken wrote "No one in this world, so far as I know ... has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people." The point is that this has moved far from a question of rational argument about what is best for the UK and when we're talking about how individual psychology translates into mass action and choices then who really knows?<br /><br /> I think Johnson has probably lost it for many Tories, but then again, there are a lot of them that emerge into the light when an election is called. And for most of them voting Tory is a religious matter. For many more, they will simply be unaware of events and as long as the Sun and the Daily Mail bray at them that BoJo is good, they'll support him. I mean, who can believe the insanity of Jacob Rees Mogg being portrayed as a Man of the People? A multi-millionaire member of the landed-gentry whose every move and utterance displays contempt for <em>the people. </em></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42264.179&return_msg=42264.170" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42264.179"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42264.180" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>