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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.0&return_msg=42216.30"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.41">41–50</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.91">91–92</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42216.30">Pi install</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42216_30_92_10"> <a name="a42216_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 08:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 19:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30">42216.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.26">42216.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Could well be.<br /><br /> IQaudIO produce <a href="http://www.iqaudio.com/downloads/IQaudIO.pdf">this document</a> (a pdf download) which seems to be wrriten in multiple styles and changes between being helpful and downright confusing.<br /><br /> I'll check the onboard audio is properly disabled and might go back to a vanilla image, and test the sound after every change made.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.30&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 08:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 19:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">31 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.31">42216.31</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.27">42216.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">You're still using the <i>"Are we there yet? Are we there yet? ..."</i> method instead of the <i>"Tell me when we're there"</i></div> <p><br /><br /> Other than being more optimised (and I appreciate the arguments for non-bloated code) does that have a knock on effect on real world performance or not?<br /><br /> Thanks for the suggestions though, I'll try that once I get the sound working again!.<br /><br /> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.31&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 09:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 11:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">32 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.32">42216.32</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_30" target="_self">42216.30</a></div> <div class="message_body"> "changes between being helpful and downright confusing"<br /> <br /> So standard documentation.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.32&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_33"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_33"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 11:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 15:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">33 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.33">42216.33</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_32" target="_self">42216.32</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_nod" title="(nod)"><span class="e__">(nod)</span></span><br /><br /> Pretty much. There's an indepth walkthrough of how to build a case with diagrams, then when it comes to installing a rotary encoder as a volume knob it's referencing external libraries and assumes ones knows how to call seperate processes as part of the code.<br /><br /> As a linux luddite, I'm able to fumble my way through most of it with online guides and PB's assistance, but it's not something I use everyday, so whatever I learn soon leaves my brain to be replaced with ingratiating one line lyrics from songs that seem to be on a permanent repeat. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.33&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.33"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_34"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_34"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 15:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 15:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">34 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.34">42216.34</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_33" target="_self">42216.33</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think many/most engineers who write their own documentation fail to appreciate the ambiguities of language, and assume users will be able to infer WTF they are talking about, and if they can't, tough shit you lose. I suppose we should be grateful even for that. <span class="emoticon e_csad" title=":C"><span class="e__">:C</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.34&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.34"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_35"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_35"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 19:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 20:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">35 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.35">42216.35</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_30" target="_self">42216.30</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How does a sound card require 48 pages of documentation? <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span> <p>And what's wrong with the onboard sound that made you opt for this route?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.35&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.35"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_36"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_36"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 20:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 20:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">36 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.36">42216.36</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_35" target="_self">42216.35</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The onboard sound is crap. I've got a DAC setup on another Pi attached to my drawing desk and it really makes a difference, the audio is clean and sounds brilliant, way way better than the awful quality through the 3.5mm jack on the Pi.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.36&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.36"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_37"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_37"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 20:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 21:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">37 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.37">42216.37</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_31" target="_self">42216.31</a></div> <div class="message_body"> > does that have a knock on effect on real world performance or not? <p>Dunno - it has the potential to, but I suspect one instance isn't going to have much impact - but if you do get symptoms of the CPU being congested (e.g. stuttering audio or sluggish response), I'd check that first.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.37&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.37"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_38"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_38"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 20:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 21:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">38 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.38">42216.38</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_36" target="_self">42216.36</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is that music-snob awful or actually bad? <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span> <p>The cards in that documentation look chunky - presumably mixing Pi extension cards can quickly give rise to compatibility/connectivity issues.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.38&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.38"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42216_39"></a><div class="message" id="message_42216_39"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">23 Aug 2018 21:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Aug 2018 21:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">39 of 92</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.39">42216.39</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42216.30#a42216_38" target="_self">42216.38</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Actually bad.<br /> There's a vast difference even when you use a 99p USB DAC compared to on board. I think on board has improved since the first gen Pis but still not great due to the design restrictions.<br /> There's an even bigger improvement if you use the I2S DACs. Not checked the one graphitone is using but there's some nice models out there that also incorporate an amplifier into the DAC HAT.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42216.39&return_msg=42216.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42216.39"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42216.40" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>