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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.0&return_msg=42214.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.21">21–26</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42214.1">LMDE</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42214_1_26_10"> <a name="a42214_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">13 Aug 2018 21:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1">42214.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Anyone use Linux Mint Debian Edition and/or Cinnamon?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.1&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">14 Aug 2018 00:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Aug 2018 21:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.2">42214.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_1" target="_self">42214.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I tried Cinnamon, and while there were some clever ideas, it was unstable and not really any more light weight than either gnome or kde.<br /> <br /> Mint is just ubuntu for idiots. I suppose by that standard, ubuntu is just debian for idiots.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 14 Aug 2018 00:14 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.2&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">14 Aug 2018 08:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Aug 2018 21:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.3">42214.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_1" target="_self">42214.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Used to use Mint Cinnamon (I think) but it being behind even Ubuntu made me change to Ubuntu.<br /> <br /> Is debian edition more up to date? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.3&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">14 Aug 2018 15:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Aug 2018 21:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.4">42214.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_3" target="_self">42214.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I used a debian unstable ("Sid") -based distro called "Sidux" which included pretty much the latest of everything linux for 4-5 years until ~2008, when I switched to Fedora.<br /><br /> It apparently lives on under the new moniker "Siduction" <a href="https://news.siduction.org/">https://news.siduction.org/</a> after some sort of founders' donnybrook.<br /><br /> I personally found little to no advantage to having the latest stuff for my needs, and eventually got tired of the admin overhead.<br /><br /> (Oh, and I still run Ubuntu LTS on a home server and a couple of work pcs, and if I ever get back into linux gaming or need the Radeon binary, I'll add Ubunutu in to a multiboot)<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 14 Aug 2018 15:34 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.4&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">14 Aug 2018 22:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Aug 2018 21:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.5">42214.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_3" target="_self">42214.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It is/was based on Debian's testing branch - so not as bleeding edge as sid/unstable, but more so than stable branch. I'm not sure how that compares to Ubuntu, but I do prefer a working system. <p>I mainly want Debian + working hardware on a Live pendrive, and don't trust Canonical, so that seemed the best option - but after discovering the <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994">response</a> to a website hack in 2016, I'm unsure about trusting Mint either. </p><p>Hoping I can find another derivative that bundles drivers and not have to <a href="https://willhaley.com/blog/custom-debian-live-environment/">arse around putting one together</a>.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.5&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">14 Aug 2018 22:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 2018 00:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.6">42214.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_2" target="_self">42214.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> When did you try Cinnamon? It used to just be a customisation of Gnome, but is now standalone, which might make it more stable. (Unless that's the thing that made it buggy.) <p>Again, I'm mainly looking for Gnome-but-better, not interested in Mate/KDE/Xfce, so I'm hoping it has matured/evolved in the right direction.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.6&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 2018 00:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 2018 14:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.7">42214.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_6" target="_self">42214.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It was on Fedora a few years back. Maybe it's improved but not worth the bother IMO.<br /> <br /> If you just want a bootable pendrive you could do a lot worse than <a href="http://www.system-rescue-cd.org">http://www.system-rescue-cd.org</a><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Aug 2018 00:46 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.7&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 2018 14:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 2018 16:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.8">42214.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_7" target="_self">42214.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I want a <em>useful</em> bootable pendrive, with a Debian base. <p>Might try Knoppix - for some reason I thought it was RedHat-based - otherwise I've found the <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/">Debian Derivatives Census</a> which provides others to check out. (Would be nice if they had basic filtering functionality.)</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.8&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 2018 16:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 2018 21:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.9">42214.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.1#a42214_8" target="_self">42214.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Nothing's more useful than systemrescuecd. It'll boot up on any old [usb-bootable] and new x86 including recent macs.<br /><br /> Got firefox, gparted, fsarchiver (even more useful than PowerPoint!), terminal, midnight commander; hell, it's even got LTS kernels!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/System-tools/">http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/System-tools/</a><br /><br /> Did I mention it's super-lightweight and boots fast AF?<br /><br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Aug 2018 16:18 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.9&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42214_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42214_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Aug 2018 16:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">10 of 26</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42214.10">42214.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Isn't this where Xen pops up and says everyone should be using Arch? Where is Xen?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42214.10&return_msg=42214.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42214.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42214.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>