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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.0&return_msg=42129.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.11">11–13</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42129.1">What fresh hell is this?</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42129_1_13_10"> <a name="a42129_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Feb 2018 19:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1">42129.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">It is not the stark choice between the past and the future we are presented with but a new complex moment of recycling the past and inventing possible futures. In a time where the future horizon has shrunk to that of the present and the past is endlessly memorialised, it is not a choice between a photographic past of representation and a future of immersive subjectivities. In the paradoxical present representations, data and code all multiply equally and exponentially.</div> <p><a href="https://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/viewpoints/2/co-creating-networks">https://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/viewpoints/2/co-creating-networks</a></p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.1&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">23 Feb 2018 23:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Feb 2018 13:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.2">42129.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_1" target="_self">42129.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hah! You obviously lack the transdisciplinary approach to understanding the interface between mathematical and cultural coding that is needed in order to engage productively with the flat topology of the computer screen.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.2&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Feb 2018 13:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Feb 2018 14:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.3">42129.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_2" target="_self">42129.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, well I ain't trans.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.3&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">24 Feb 2018 14:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Feb 2018 14:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.4">42129.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_3" target="_self">42129.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Isn't that what I said?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.4&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">24 Feb 2018 14:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Feb 2018 16:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.5">42129.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_4" target="_self">42129.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> If you were able to slog through the jargon-laden screed and the other one it was a response to, there was a glimmer of a valid point or two buried in there, somewhere.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.5&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">25 Feb 2018 17:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Feb 2018 22:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.6">42129.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_1" target="_self">42129.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Needless complexity in critical writing generally signifies that the author isn't wholly confident about their subject. Inevitably when any trade speaks to its peers there is complexity and jargon: but in this case there's an unhealthy dollop of artbollocks, too.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.6&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Feb 2018 14:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Feb 2018 18:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.7">42129.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_6" target="_self">42129.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Photography (apart from the legacy-analog/digital-future thing these here dudes are talking about) seems to be attracting a cottage industry of self-described 'critical thinkers' (mainly academics) because, IMHO, the still photograph yields so little contextual information about a) the subject and b) the photographer's intentions, that it is effectively a blank slate upon which to project ... pretty much anything you can think of.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.7&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Gobfounded (YVE)<span class="message_time">28 Feb 2018 00:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Feb 2018 00:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.8">42129.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_7" target="_self">42129.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> *cough*bullshit*cough*</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.8&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">28 Feb 2018 09:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Feb 2018 09:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.9">42129.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_7" target="_self">42129.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can't the same be applied to any (static) visual art? Everything's open to interpretation, you can take as little or as much as you want from a painting/sculpture etc. Minimalist art offers even less context to the viewer.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.9&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42129_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42129_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">28 Feb 2018 17:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Feb 2018 19:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 13</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.10">42129.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42129.1#a42129_9" target="_self">42129.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The context of minimalist art, and other established/traditional creative genres is the gallery: a blank canvas in a store is a blank canvas, a blank canvas in a gallery showing is minimalist art.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42129.10&return_msg=42129.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42129.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42129.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>