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Ireland is not part of the UK, and that was the question.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.20&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Dec 2017 10:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">21 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.21">42084.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> For the sake of argument, Texas and California are in Mexico.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.21&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">19 Dec 2017 12:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Dec 2017 19:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.22">42084.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.6">42084.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So, yeah. If that is that complicated it causes all ^ that. The rest of it is probably more so. It's just one of many reasons why this is a very stupid idea.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.22&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.22"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Dec 2017 15:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 15:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.23">42084.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_22" target="_self">42084.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I kind of like how Martin Parr put it: "The vote was really an up yours to the southern elite, delivered by the people who probably will be most damaged by the result". If polling is to be believed, the remain side would win a referendum held now in a landslide.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.23&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 00:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 00:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.24">42084.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_23" target="_self">42084.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm not so sure sure about that last sentence. Where are you seeing those landslide indications? <p>I find people conveniently ignore what they don't want to accept, even after facts are spelt out in detail from every angle, the evidence really rubbed in, they'll still cling to the smallest mote and insist on being right.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.24&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 00:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 16:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.25">42084.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_24" target="_self">42084.24</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/16/new-brexit-poll-shows-people-back-remain-leave-10-points-7165717/">http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/16/new-brexit-poll-shows-people-back-remain-leave-10-points-7165717/</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.25&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 15:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">26 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.26">42084.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It appears Parr may be right:<br /><br /> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/20/brexit-vote-exposure-trade-effects-report-uk-regions">https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/20/brexit-vote-exposure-trade-effects-report-uk-regions</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.26&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 15:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 16:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.27">42084.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_26" target="_self">42084.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> He's right about it mainly fucking the mostly-leave voting areas. Of course it will, we have a Tory government who are systematically dismantling those same areas and rubbing their hands at the prospect of removing EU protection for the kinds of social welfare that exposes them more.<br /> Not so sure about another referendum being an easy Remain. There a shitload of very vocal gammon-faced pricks who have only gotten further entrenched in their Leave opinion. And probably still a large quiet group who'll carry on agreeing with them. And about nine tenths of our shithouse press. Bah.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.27&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 16:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 17:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.28">42084.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_27" target="_self">42084.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The gist of the poll was that leave and remain voters unlikely to change their minds; undecided shifted to remain.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.28&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 17:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 19:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.29">42084.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.20#a42084_25" target="_self">42084.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> BMG had the least accurate of all the polls on the day before the General Election, and published EU membership predictions <a href="http://opinionbee.uk/polls/eu-membership/bmg">varying from +3/-10/+8 in a short period of time</a>, so a single result from them is not really sufficient evidence. <p>However, <a href="http://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/independent-poll-shift-toward-remain-at-height-of-brexit-negotiation-tensions/">their own write-up on this poll</a> is interesting, and indicates that people not voting in the referendum were split 50:50 a year ago and are now 80:20 remain, (whilst at the same time the graph there also suggests it's not <em>just</em> previously undecided people causing the difference).</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.29&return_msg=42084.20" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.29"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42084.30" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>