Saudi Aramco IPO - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.0&return_msg=42049.18"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.21">21–25</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42049.18">Saudi Aramco IPO</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42049_18_25_10"> <a name="a42049_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Nov 2017 13:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Nov 2017 17:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18">42049.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.17">42049.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You just need the right anesthetic<br /><br /><img alt="" src="http://www.jimbeam.com/sites/default/files/jb_media_product_original/JB_Original_750ml_2.png?w=600&crc=e0f1537c" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.18&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.18"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time"> 7 Nov 2017 21:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">19 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.19">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It occurred to me that since Aramco is essentially a portion of the SA govt, then when you purchase a share of stock in Aramco:<br /> - You are essentially purchasing a share of stock in Saudi Arabia<br /> - The country is in heavy negative cash flow for a while - and apparently for some time to come<br /> - Not sure if it is a good thing or not, but their solution to a cash flow problem appears to have been to round up anyone with significant money and influence and "jail them" and their families in a hotel.<br /> - SA is also in the middle of several wars and appears to be itching to get into another one.<br /><br /> Not sure that this is really a great investment. Certainly outside of my risk / reward level.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.19&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 8 Nov 2017 00:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.20">42049.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Saudi Arabia is fucked in all kinds of ways. OTOH, Brent crude just went to $64.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.20&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 8 Nov 2017 21:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.21">42049.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Doesn't buying shares in Aramco mean you're paying the UK+US arms industry for ISIS's weapons <em>and</em> helping out the criminally abusive SA government. <p><em>Why the fuck would anyone want to do that?</em></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.21&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.21"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 00:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2017 21:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.22">42049.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_21" target="_self">42049.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <img alt="" src="http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5a/5a03eb2e523cfbd2a131a5592c463b7c68e6119cf7213352f3051b4e93f95625.jpg" style="width:523px;height:369px;" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.22&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 03:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.23">42049.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Many major governments are operating a budget deficit.<br /> <br /> They've been running a very large surplus for many years which I believe now means cash in the bank. Obviously it relies heavily on the price of oil being above the breakeven point. Which seems to be around $74 for them. <br /> <br /> Not just SA in the middle of many wars, but it does seem very involved in a lot of conflict at the moment. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.23&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 14:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2017 15:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.24">42049.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_23" target="_self">42049.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Depends on what you mean by "break even", their production costs are ~$10 a barrel presumably the rest is to underwrite the princely lifestyle<br /><br /> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html">http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.24&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 21:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Nov 2017 10:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.25">42049.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18#a42049_22" target="_self">42049.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Looks like the characters "short-term illusion of" have done a Tory from your image.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 9 Nov 2017 21:32 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.25&return_msg=42049.18" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>