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class="message_body"> If they are strong enough, you could put several around your head for scissors, stapler and can opener, things I'm sick and tired of losing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.15&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 3 Nov 2017 12:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Nov 2017 00:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.16">42049.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_15" target="_self">42049.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> A walking stationary box.<br /><br /> I can see chefs using head magnets for small pans and keeping knives close to hand (so to speak) and surgeons for having lancets, scalpels and speculums ready to go whenever they are. <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.16&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 4 Nov 2017 20:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Nov 2017 13:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.17">42049.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.11">42049.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Don't think I have the cajones for that.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.17&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Nov 2017 13:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Nov 2017 17:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.18">42049.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_17" target="_self">42049.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You just need the right anesthetic<br /><br /><img alt="" src="http://www.jimbeam.com/sites/default/files/jb_media_product_original/JB_Original_750ml_2.png?w=600&crc=e0f1537c" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.18&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.18"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time"> 7 Nov 2017 21:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">19 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.19">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It occurred to me that since Aramco is essentially a portion of the SA govt, then when you purchase a share of stock in Aramco:<br /> - You are essentially purchasing a share of stock in Saudi Arabia<br /> - The country is in heavy negative cash flow for a while - and apparently for some time to come<br /> - Not sure if it is a good thing or not, but their solution to a cash flow problem appears to have been to round up anyone with significant money and influence and "jail them" and their families in a hotel.<br /> - SA is also in the middle of several wars and appears to be itching to get into another one.<br /><br /> Not sure that this is really a great investment. Certainly outside of my risk / reward level.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.19&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 8 Nov 2017 00:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.20">42049.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Saudi Arabia is fucked in all kinds of ways. OTOH, Brent crude just went to $64.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.20&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 8 Nov 2017 21:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.21">42049.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Doesn't buying shares in Aramco mean you're paying the UK+US arms industry for ISIS's weapons <em>and</em> helping out the criminally abusive SA government. <p><em>Why the fuck would anyone want to do that?</em></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.21&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.21"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 00:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2017 21:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.22">42049.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_21" target="_self">42049.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <img alt="" src="http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5a/5a03eb2e523cfbd2a131a5592c463b7c68e6119cf7213352f3051b4e93f95625.jpg" style="width:523px;height:369px;" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.22&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 03:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Nov 2017 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.23">42049.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_19" target="_self">42049.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Many major governments are operating a budget deficit.<br /> <br /> They've been running a very large surplus for many years which I believe now means cash in the bank. Obviously it relies heavily on the price of oil being above the breakeven point. Which seems to be around $74 for them. <br /> <br /> Not just SA in the middle of many wars, but it does seem very involved in a lot of conflict at the moment. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.23&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42049_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_42049_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2017 14:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2017 15:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.24">42049.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42049.15#a42049_23" target="_self">42049.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Depends on what you mean by "break even", their production costs are ~$10 a barrel presumably the rest is to underwrite the princely lifestyle<br /><br /> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html">http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42049.24&return_msg=42049.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42049.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42049.25" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>