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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.0&return_msg=41951.2"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.11">11–12</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41951.2">Backup</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41951_2_12_10"> <a name="a41951_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">15 May 2017 22:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 06:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2">41951.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.1">41951.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's not bloody Java, it's shit programmers - it doesn't take 1GB of RAM to copy files in any competently written software, and Java specifically has built-in support for dealing with files as streams to keep memory use down. <p><a href="https://rsync.samba.org/FAQ.html#4">Rsync uses 100 bytes per file being copied</a>, so to get it using a gig of RAM you'd need to be syncing ten million files.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.2&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">15 May 2017 23:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 06:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.3">41951.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.1">41951.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Does it have to be remote?<br /><br /> I keep files I care about on Owncloud, so there are 5 separate devices with regularly synced copies of everything - but all on my own disk space. Movies and music are on a single drive on a home server, but I simply back this up overnight to another drive using robocopy rather than anything clever. All my family PCs back up to the same drive (The windows devices just use file history) so they're all replicated at the same time as the movies etc.<br /><br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 May 2017 23:24 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.3&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 00:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 07:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.4">41951.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_3" target="_self">41951.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> it's not a back up if it's not offsite.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.4&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 00:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 15:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.5">41951.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_4" target="_self">41951.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's not a fire/flood/nuke-proof backup if it's not offsite, but it's still considerably better than nothing at all.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.5&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 07:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 07:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.6">41951.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_3" target="_self">41951.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm going to say yes, because it more easily protects against drive failure without needing more hard drives. I'm backing up around 2TB from my server. <br /> <br /> CrashPlan also does unlimited revision backup and long lasting deleted files. Not that that is massively useful, but I do nightly full image backups of some of my important RPis, locally I store 7 days worth, but CrashPlan must have months/years of these now I could recover. An absolute waste of space, but it's unlimited so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.6&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 07:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 07:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.7">41951.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_3" target="_self">41951.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It also means that I've not had to pull my finger out and organise my storage, which I desperately need to. I've just pointed the software at loads of folders and left it to it. <br /> <br /> I decided against backing up TV and Movies. But definitely music. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.7&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 08:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 08:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.8">41951.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_6" target="_self">41951.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My total backup is around 2TB as well. I suppose you should go with what suits you. <br /> <br /> @DSMITHFX I forgot to mention that my backup drive is at my DR site.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.8&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 08:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 14:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.9">41951.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_8" target="_self">41951.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think I'll look at what you've said, because local backups are obviously significantly quicker to restore. Maybe for absolute essentials. I used to backup locally, but rather than having a backup drive, as such, I backed up bits across various other drives. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.9&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 May 2017 15:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 May 2017 20:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.10">41951.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.2#a41951_5" target="_self">41951.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> True. I've had to recover from many a dead hdd, no fires/floods/nukes thus far (though I can see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickering_Nuclear_Generating_Station">nukes</a> from my balcony and we get plenty o' floods, none have reached the 13th floor, thus far).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.10&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41951_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41951_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">18 May 2017 11:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">11 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41951.11">41951.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> We use carbonite for most stuff for windows computers. I still need to do something off site for linux mint ones.<br /><br /> I have considered renting a bank box and putting a monthly back up in there.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41951.11&return_msg=41951.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41951.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41951.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>