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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.0&return_msg=41880.12"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.11">11–19</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41880.12">Linux wifi help :(</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41880_12_19_10"> <a name="a41880_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 09:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 11:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12">41880.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.11">41880.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I guess that's the penalty you pay for not checking all hardware is compatible with the strict list. Are you able to use a regular kernel? Or does that just defeat the whole object and you may as well start from scratch with a well supported distro?<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 3 Feb 2017 09:40 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.12&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 11:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 11:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.13">41880.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_12" target="_self">41880.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I did check the hardware, and it was listed as Linux compatible, with no indication on wireless firmware being an issue. Whilst looking into Trisquel I either didn't see or didn't notice that all the people there using and recommending Thinkpads didn't use the default wireless card. <p>It was only on looking more into Linux-libre that I discovered it doesn't just remove non-free firmware, but actively refuses to load it even if you install it separately. </p><p>So I'm going with Debian - still got some more setup to do today, but not oversleeping like I usually do means I at least have a bit of time.</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 3 Feb 2017 11:36 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.13&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 11:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.14">41880.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_13" target="_self">41880.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That's a bit shit, freedom should include being able to install whatever you want without being restricted to what some group of people say you should/shouldn't.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.14&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 12:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 13:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.15">41880.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_14" target="_self">41880.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yep, goes against "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose" and "The freedom to ... change it so it does your computing as you wish" <p>No point arguing that though - they'd just say having the source code means you're free to modify it, (whilst insisting immediately that doing so would be the worst thing ever).</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.15&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 15:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 16:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.16">41880.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_15" target="_self">41880.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I had a very quick search to see what support that distro had for Intel WiFi (obviously little or none), and the first few forum posts were just people getting angry for others linking to non-free proprietary firmwares. At which point I thought, I'm not Richard Stallman so I really don't care. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.16&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 16:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 16:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.17">41880.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_16" target="_self">41880.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Richard cares so you don't have to.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.17&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 16:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 16:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.18">41880.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_17" target="_self">41880.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's a massive weight off my penguin shoulders. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.18&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41880_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_41880_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Feb 2017 19:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Feb 2017 23:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 19</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.19">41880.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41880.12#a41880_15" target="_self">41880.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's the nature of the beast though innit. If you want to be *100% certain* that there's nothing proprietary on your machine, then Trisquel is the right choice. Which means for the vast majority of people in the vast majority of situations, it's a terrible choice.<br /><br /> There are *plenty* of other distros (Debian's a good choice for a fairly hard-line but still sane approach to freeness).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41880.19&return_msg=41880.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41880.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>