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Drop it in the Channel and I'll certainly give it consideration.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.9&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 2 Dec 2016 01:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Dec 2016 23:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.10">41845.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.8">41845.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, home confiscation sucks. It really does. So I'll put it to you again: does it feel any better if the bank does it, as opposed to the gummint?<br /> <br /> Easy to criticize the 'other', than to face myriad and catastrophic failures on home turf, innit?<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 2 Dec 2016 01:07 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.10&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 2 Dec 2016 20:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Dec 2016 23:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.11">41845.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.8">41845.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> <a href="https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/12/02/i-just-wish-that-i-had-not-voted-trump-voter-lost-her-home-to-his-new-treasury-secretary.html">https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/12/02/i-just-wish-that-i-had-not-voted-trump-voter-lost-her-home-to-his-new-treasury-secretary.html</a></div> <div class="quote">When Donald Trump named his Treasury secretary, Teena Colebrook, 59, felt her heart sink. Steven Mnuchin's bank had foreclosed on her home.<span class="image__credit"> </span></div> <p> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.11&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 2 Dec 2016 23:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2016 01:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.12">41845.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_10" target="_self">41845.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It makes a huge difference. People who don't pay their mortgages have their home foreclosed upon. There is a choice there. Pay the bill, the house is safe.<br /><br /> When the "gummint" takes a home, such as Castro's system did, it doesn't matter if the mortgage is paid or not - they just take it. <br /><br /> From a purely semantic position, the end result is the same - except it really isn't.<br /><br /> Sometimes catastrophe is caused by people's own choices, such as overextending on purchasing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.12&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 2 Dec 2016 23:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2016 00:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.13">41845.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_9" target="_self">41845.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Plus, it'd be much closer. <span class="emoticon e_wink" title=";)"><span class="e__">;)</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.13&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2016 00:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2016 15:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.14">41845.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_13" target="_self">41845.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, not a fan of commuting.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.14&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2016 01:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2016 15:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.15">41845.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_12" target="_self">41845.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah. Folks who lost their home to the bank deserved it. Folks who lost their home to communism are victims. Gotcha.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.15&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 4 Dec 2016 15:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2016 18:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.16">41845.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_15" target="_self">41845.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Folks who lost their home to the bank deserved it.</div> <p><br /> Well, you tell me: If someone can't or won't pay the mortgage they took on, what should the lender do about it? The house is collateral for the loan.<br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Folks who lost their home to communism are victims.</div> <p><br /> Uhhh, yeah. Surely you can see the difference, or perhaps are being deliberately obtuse.<br /><br /> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.16&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Dec 2016 18:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Dec 2016 23:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.17">41845.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_16" target="_self">41845.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Perhaps you should study up on the whole subprime mortgage business, then you'd at least have an informed opinion. <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41845.17&return_msg=41845.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41845.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41845_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41845_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 6 Dec 2016 23:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Dec 2016 01:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.18">41845.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41845.9#a41845_17" target="_self">41845.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Oh, OK. So it is all the fault of the big, bad lender. I know about it, bud - but apparently you don't ascribe any responsibility to the <u>borrower</u>.<br /><br /> From your link:<br /><br /><em>An increase in loan incentives such as easy initial terms and a long-term trend of rising housing prices had encouraged borrowers to assume risky mortgages in the anticipation that they would be able to quickly refinance at easier terms. </em><br /><br /> Put another way, borrowers were greedy, went-all in for a the big house they should have had the good sense to know they couldn't afford (risky mortgage), then got burned. Smart people live within their means and listen to the warning bells.<br /><br /> "When something seems too good to be true, it usually is"<br /><br /> Words to live by, mate. 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