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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.0&return_msg=41843.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.11">11–20</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41843.1">Cheap VPN</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41843_1_20_10"> <a name="a41843_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">24 Nov 2016 22:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1">41843.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Not sure how many people would be bothered or interested on here but I thought it might be useful for some.<br /> <br /> Since the "Snoopers Charter" seems to be going full steam ahead I thought it would be worth looking into a VPN to try and prevent the logging of Internet history by the ISP.<br /> <br /> A month or so ago I rented a very cheap VPS server for £4.50/year. Low spec, shared IPv4 address (unique IPv6), 20 available ports. It didn't do what I wanted at the time, but I remembered this evening I still had it so had a play. It didn't take long but it's now running OpenVPN and currently all the web traffic from my laptop and phone is going through it. Eventually if it works consistently I'll set it up on my dd-wrt router.<br /> <br /> There's also a server for £2.50/year which is just silly cheap, with less RAM and less HDD space.<br /> <a href="http://www.i-83.net">http://www.i-83.net</a> is the place. I got the LDN-256 option, as I wanted a bit more RAM and HDD space at the time. You'll probably want a UK based server so all the browsing is still UK region/language.<br /> <br /> From what I've read it's only the mainstream broadband ISPs that will be doing the logging and not datacenters, but I could be wrong. Also, with it being a shared IPv4 address there will be plenty of traffic coming out of the other end from multiple servers so that could be good in terms of making it difficult pinpointing who/what/etc. I guess it could be logged internally, but I wonder if they'd bother on servers so cheap.<br /> <br /> If anyone is interested in some instructions I'll post them tomorrow anyway.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 24 Nov 2016 22:31 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.1&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">24 Nov 2016 22:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Nov 2016 23:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.2">41843.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_1" target="_self">41843.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Definitely interested, possibly want one outside of the UK though so I can still watch my favourite panda fisting videos, too.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 24 Nov 2016 22:54 by KOSWIX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.2&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)<span class="message_time">25 Nov 2016 11:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Nov 2016 13:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.3">41843.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_2" target="_self">41843.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> As far as I can tell, for this kind of thing, you're OK as long as the panda is dead. The so-called "Cameron Defence".<br /><br /> Swan-frotting, on the other hand, is right out.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.3&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.3"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">25 Nov 2016 19:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 12:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.4">41843.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_2" target="_self">41843.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What's "unconventional" about panda fisting?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.4&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">25 Nov 2016 19:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">5 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.5">41843.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So, basically. Get a cheapo NAT based VPS from here - <a href="https://i-83.net">https://i-83.net</a><br /> Apparently they've got a Black Friday deal on for 15% off! (code - 15OFFNAT)<br /> As mentioned, I went for the £4.50/year London option.<br /><br /> I installed ubuntu 14.04 lts x64 since it's nice and easy. I imagine the Debian options will be fine too.<br /><br /> I initially followed the instructions here - <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04">https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04</a> - but it didn't work in the end, but it did teach me about most of the settings, which was nice.<br /><br /> I then followed these instructions, which is basically just an automated script - <a href="https://quadhost.net/account/knowledgebase/6/Install-OpenVPN-on-a-NAT-Server.html">https://quadhost.net/account/knowledgebase/6/Install-OpenVPN-on-a-NAT-Server.html</a><br /><br /> This worked great first time. One setting I added to /etc/openvpn/server.conf was <div class="quotetext"><strong>Code:</strong> </div> <pre class="code"> duplicate-cn </pre> This means you can use the same client file across multiple devices, saving you from generating a new one for new devices. It will generate a client.ovpn file which you transfer to your devices and load into the openvpn client.<br /><br /><br /> The biggest issue I had when I first rented the server was getting my head around the NAT based port system. It's actually fairly simple. If I read the initial emails that were sent I would have realised that.<br /><br /> The server the VPS is on has an IPv4 IP - this is the external IP<br /> Your VPS has an internal IP - essentially a LAN IP. The port numbers are based off that eg:<br /><br /> External IP<br /> 123.123.123.123<br /><br /> Internal IP<br /> 192.168.40.50<br /><br /> Your open ports are defined by the last part of the IP "50"<br /> Open ports:<br /> 5001-5020<br /> and 5022 for SSH<br /><br /> So 123.123.123.123:5022 would be the SSH port/address for your VPS.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 25 Nov 2016 19:35 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.5&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.5"> <span class="rating">+2/2</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2016 12:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 12:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.6">41843.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_5" target="_self">41843.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Do you (or anyone) know if it's possible to run vpn on a 'conventional' web server without messing up the latter's ip access to internet/lan via internal router and external dhcp? Thinking of trying it on our work ubuntu 14.04, but not if it nukes it.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Nov 2016 12:31 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.6&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2016 12:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 14:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.7">41843.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_4" target="_self">41843.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The hard part is nailing them to the wagon wheel. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.7&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2016 14:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 14:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.8">41843.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_6" target="_self">41843.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> To use the system in question as a an OpenVPN server? <br /> <br /> If so, then as far as I can tell everything remains normal. It's only connecting devices/clients that have their network stuff changed for accessing things outside of the LAN. On my laptop and phone all my web traffic seems to go through the VPN and local traffic moves as normal.<br /> <br /> I guess with a true business VPN you should be able to get access to that servers internal network from the VPN clients. No idea if I can do that. Probably possible if various interfaces are bridged or something.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.8&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2016 14:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 14:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.9">41843.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_8" target="_self">41843.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Probably need to ask our isp to open port(s), unless it's going through ssh in which case already open.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.9&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41843_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41843_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2016 14:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Nov 2016 15:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 20</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.10">41843.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41843.1#a41843_7" target="_self">41843.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Nail gun makes pretty short work of it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41843.10&return_msg=41843.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41843.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41843.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>