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This used to be rare, now it is more common.<br /><br /> Don't be surprised if the final voting results, and legal battles go on for several weeks.<br /><br /> Regardless of who wins, the next 4 years will be one political battle after another. There is literally no ability to create consensus here, as voters nor the representatives in congress.<br /><br /> In general this is probably good, because the last time we had a consensus of President and Congress, two wars were started.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.19&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 00:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 01:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.20">41828.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.17">41828.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.17">Peter (BOUGHTONP)</a></div> <div class="quote">You're letting me down Graphitown. <span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__">:@</span></span></span></span> <p>Indiana is 0.5% reporting and 72% Trump, Kentucky is 0.3% and 69% Trump, New Hampshire is 1% and 53% Trumpy wumpy wumpy.</p> <p>Not the best of starts. *farts*</p> </div> <p><br /> Mike Pence, Trump's VP is from Indiana. It would be a big slap if Pence could not bring Indiana in.<br /><br /> Kentucky is full of auto workers who have lost jobs to China, Japan and Mexico. That was a big target of Trump's campaign and really the "center piece" of the whole concept.<br /><br /> New Hampshire - Probably not important.<br /><br /> States that will make or break the election:<br /> - Michigan<br /> - Nevada<br /> - Colorado<br /> - Florida<br /> - Maybe AZ, but it is hard to believe that it will vote for such a strong anti gun candidate as Hillary.<br /> - Possibly Ohio, but it seems likely that it is going to vote similarly to Kentucky<br /><br /> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.20&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 00:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 00:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.21">41828.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.19#a41828_20" target="_self">41828.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Just to calm any nerves:<br /> - There will be nearly no difference between these two candidates as far as Europe / UK / Middle East are concerned, business, politics, or wars.<br /><br /> - The only country that will really feel any difference is China. Clinton will embrace it, Trump will not.<br /><br /> - There are some minor differences in how domestic policies are run, but less than you might think, as congress is a glacier, and lobbies still run the country.<br /><br /> It's a republic, not a democracy, so the voters can shift a lot and it matters little for many years.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.21&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 02:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 16:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.22">41828.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.19#a41828_20" target="_self">41828.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Out of those only Florida and Ohio have anything in. <br />Ohio is 49.1 vs 47.2 at 25.2% to Hilly Billy. <br />Florida is 49.1 vs 47.8 at 73.6% to Donald Duck. <p>Yay exciting numbers and stuff! <span class="emoticon e_bounce" title="(bounce)"><span class="e__">(bounce)</span></span> </p><p>Boo for bedtime being the wrong side of now. <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.22&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 06:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">23 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.23">41828.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well it looks like what most people outside of the US feared is happening. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.23&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 06:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 06:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.24">41828.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.19#a41828_23" target="_self">41828.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Stunner. <span class="emoticon e_shock" title=":-O"><span class="e__">:-O</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.24&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 07:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">25 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.25">41828.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well at least the exchange rate has improved a bit >.<<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 9 Nov 2016 07:55 by KOSWIX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.25&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 08:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 09:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.26">41828.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.19#a41828_25" target="_self">41828.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah fuck.<br /><br /> I'm starting to think the world is full of apathetic plebs who just want to watch the world burn.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.26&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 13:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">27 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.27">41828.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think it's safe to say polling looks to have had its day in modern-day politics. Many Trump voters keeping quiet about that fact.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.27&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41828_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_41828_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2016 15:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2016 16:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 85</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.28">41828.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41828.19#a41828_27" target="_self">41828.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Polling drives a great deal of 'news reporting' (and the ad revenues that come with it) so no, I don't think we've seen the last of it. I bet it's going to be a lot more carefully crafted, around stuff like twitter and facebook. And it will still frequently fail.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41828.28&return_msg=41828.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41828.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41828.29" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>