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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.0&return_msg=41733.11"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.21">21–30</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41733.11">Brexit</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41733_11_30_10"> <a name="a41733_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 19:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 19:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11">41733.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.10">41733.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <img alt="" src="http://www.hillbillystills.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/PS8GKnb-2.jpg" /><br /><br /> My brudder-in-law made one of these (albeit a bit cruder than this fine example) and has been making corn likker/white lightning. He even keeps it in mason jars! Not really aged so a tad harsh IMO. My cousin from Glenrothes who worked in a scottish distillery told me scotch cost ~25p a gallon to make (this would have been ~30-years ago). SO FUCK DUTY FREE!!! <span class="emoticon e_fergie" title="(fergie)"><span class="e__">(fergie)</span></span><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 29 Apr 2016 19:12 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.11&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 19:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 19:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.12">41733.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_11" target="_self">41733.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> >><span style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">My cousin from Glenrothes who worked in a scottish distillery told me scotch cost ~25p a gallon to make (this would have been ~30-years ago)<br /><br /> Never trust folk from Glenrothes. </span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.12&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 19:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 20:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.13">41733.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_12" target="_self">41733.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> This was New Glenrothes or New Town or some such in Fife. He got relocated there from a farm in the highlands somewhere.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.13&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2016 01:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2016 09:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.14">41733.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.8">41733.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You mean, "a friend".<br /><br /> Is he waiting on the transport then? We'll try to hurry things...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.14&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2016 06:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2016 19:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.15">41733.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_11" target="_self">41733.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11">Tiger Blowfish Liver (DSMITHHFX)</a></div> <div class="quote"><img alt="" src="http://www.hillbillystills.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/PS8GKnb-2.jpg" /><br /><br /> My brudder-in-law made one of these (albeit a bit cruder than this fine example) and has been making corn likker/white lightning. He even keeps it in mason jars! Not really aged so a tad harsh IMO. My cousin from Glenrothes who worked in a scottish distillery told me scotch cost ~25p a gallon to make (this would have been ~30-years ago). SO FUCK DUTY FREE!!! <span class="emoticon e_fergie" title="(fergie)"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_fergie" title="(fergie)"><span class="e__">(fergie)</span></span></span></span></div> <p>You didn't ask, but it is possible to substantially improve the quality of what comes out, as well as reduce energy use using slightly more advanced setups. These are well documented and widely used industrially, but especially common in oil refining.<br /><br /> Basically:<br /> - Instead of heating it as a batch, feed the raw liquid in as the coolant and bring it in slowly. See that 45 degree sloped line with the water cooling setup? Just feed in the raw liquid into that instead to capture the condensation heat, and then drip it down into the large tank at the bottom. This thermal recycling can cut the required heat easily by 50% and increases output for the same size still.<br /><br /> - Let the vapors rise inside of a "packed column" instead of just an empty copper tube. (see that vertical section above the tank - it is going to waste the way it is designed.) A common example is to fill a tube with glass or metallic spheres or rings (basically just adding in more surface area and stacked vertically). Each time the vapor condenses and re - vaporizes on these surfaces, is nearly equivalent to another distillation.<br /><br /> - Consider to take the vapor off of the column about 1/2 way up instead of completely off the top. The vapor at the top of the column tends to be slightly enriched in methanol, which gives the majority of the hang over effect. (in quantity, it is toxic).</p> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 30 Apr 2016 06:51 by HARRYN</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.15&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2016 11:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jun 2016 02:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.16">41733.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_15" target="_self">41733.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You spelled "vapour" wrong. <span class="emoticon e_rabbit" title=":-B"><span class="e__">:-B</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.16&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">21 Jun 2016 22:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Jun 2016 11:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.17">41733.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_16" target="_self">41733.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.16">fixrman</a></div> <div class="quote">You spelled "vapour" wrong. <span class="emoticon e_rabbit" title=":-B"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_rabbit" title=":-B"><span class="e__">:-B</span></span></span></span></div> <p><span class="emoticon e_lol" title="LOL"><span class="e__">LOL</span></span> - that is funny fixrman. I am not sure why I missed your post on this earlier.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.17&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">21 Jun 2016 22:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">18 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.18">41733.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well, the voting is getting close now, so it is certainly interesting to watch elections in other countries.<br /><br /> I am a strong believer that people from one country should not try to influence the elections in another, so I will try to carefully refrain from that area.<br /><br /> I have no idea how it is presented in the UK, but perhaps you might be curious how it is being presented over here?<br /><br /> More or less:<br /><br /> Vote to Stay side<br /> - The normal "the sky will fall down" fear mongering<br /> - The economy will fail<br /> - Real estate values will fall, especially in London, because foreign buyers will not need to be in London anymore<br /> - Wealthy bankers / real estate owners seem to be the most concerned due to (?) and some tax code aspects<br /> - The hedge fund guys are not worried, possibly because they know how the game is rigged?<br /><br /><br /> Vote to leave<br /> - Tired of being pushed around by EU<br /> - UK knows how to make lots of laws all by itself without another layer of unelected government<br /> - Tired of paying taxes to EU for no particular reason<br /><br /> I am not sure exactly how the Euro plays with it all now that the UK has joined into the Chinese money exchange system, but it does seem to be pretty complicated from here.<br /><br /> I am not sure what is true or not, but from here it appears that the wealthier you are, the better off you are staying within the EU, while the poorer you are, the better off you are to leave. No idea if that is true or not.<br /><br /> There are some expectations that people will be making rapid trades on the exchanges on Wednesday and Thursday trying to make money on the fear / panic / vote status of the moment.<br /><br /> Good luck with your election.<br /><br /> Harry<br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.18&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">22 Jun 2016 00:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jun 2016 23:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.19">41733.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_18" target="_self">41733.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> "another layer of unelected government"<br /> <br /> Actually, members of the EU Parliament <em>are</em> elected. Scary eh?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.19&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41733_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_41733_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">22 Jun 2016 07:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Jun 2016 23:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 30</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.20">41733.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41733.11#a41733_18" target="_self">41733.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm for remaining (and I might be wrong, but I think the majority on here are too. That's probably no surprise).<br /><br /> I've tried my best not to discuss the referendum much, I really can't be bothered getting into any political arguments at the moment.<br /><br /> From what I've seen there's 3 main points that are pushing the agenda.<br /><br /> Immigration<br /> Sovereignty<br /> EU fees<br /><br /> In terms of the campaigning, it's just totally negative on both sides.<br /><br /> The remain side have done an incredibly poor job of promoting the positives of being in the EU, instead they're trading on fear and the negative consequences of leaving. A valid tactic, but not so good when you're trying to convince people who have an inherent hatred of the EU.<br /><br /> The leave side are using negatives along with lies to try and win the argument. One of the figureheads of the campaign has decided that he's fed up of experts giving their expert views on the topics they're experts in, because who needs to listen to the people who are educated and experienced in the areas that will be affected?! Not him apparently.<br /><br /> I personally fear that we will vote to leave tomorrow. Demographics, polls and voter turn out look to possibly sway towards a leave result. The younger generation tend to poll as wanting to remain, but the younger generation tend not to vote. Whenever the referendum has been discussed whilst I've been visiting customers, more have been for leaving than remaining. I'm genuinely worried.<br /><br /> One other major problem is that if leave win we will end up with the people heading up the leave campaign in power. I can't stand the current lot, but the leave group of people are just total shits.<br /><br /> The people seem to think we can shut the borders if we leave, that won't happen if we want a free trade agreement.<br /><br /> The people seem to think we won't have to listen to EU rules and regulations if we leave, that won't happen if we want to sell into the EU, we'll have to adhere to all of the regulations to trade with them, we just won't have the power to influence them anymore.<br /><br /> The people seem to think we will save a load of money if we leave. We might save a bit, but we'll still have to pay a fee to be part of a free trade agreement, but then have no legal influence over policies.<br /><br /> I'm hoping a lot of people have kept quiet and go for the more cautious option of remaining.<br /><br /> The odds across the bookmakers are favouring remain.<br /><br /> I'd personally have us join the Schengen Area if I had my way, but, admittedly that's a bit of an extreme view.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 22 Jun 2016 08:38 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41733.20&return_msg=41733.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41733.20"> <span class="rating">+3/3</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41733.21" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>