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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.0&return_msg=41719.3"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.21">21</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41719.3">Accounting / Inventory software for Linux</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41719_3_21_10"> <a name="a41719_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 07:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">3 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3">41719.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for the leads. Damn those are expensive. It would feel like I am paying a tax on everything we do.<br /><br /> It reminds me of why I keep using spreadsheets.<br /><br /> I need to keep looking though, as what we are doing is not sufficient.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.3&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 10:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Apr 2016 18:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.4">41719.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_3" target="_self">41719.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Wait, what? The ones I linked were all free/opensource, I think?<br /><br /> I did a bit more reading around last night (I have a supply chain management exam in 3 weeks which includes a section on ERP stuff) and Openbravo seems to have a pretty good rep (especially as it has an active community and lots of tutorials), it's free to download but you'll probably have to invest quite a lot of time working it out: <a href="http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20091129071035537/Openbravo.html">http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20091129071035537/Openbravo.html</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.4&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 10:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Apr 2016 10:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.5">41719.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_4" target="_self">41719.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (Ah yes, they all seem to pimp very expensive hosting and support packages. If you're comfortable learning the tech and have a spare linux machine you can set it up yourself for free, though: <a href="http://www.openbravo.com/product-download/">http://www.openbravo.com/product-download/</a> )</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.5&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 10:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Apr 2016 10:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.6">41719.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_5" target="_self">41719.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> ((Or not - the deeper I go the more confused I get. God-damnit they are expensive))</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.6&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 10:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Apr 2016 18:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.7">41719.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.1">41719.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OK I'm more confused then ever with openbravo now. Their price guide mentions that the community edition is free (but with limited feature set), but when you try and get it on their website it asks you to register for a free 30 day trial of the community edition <span class="emoticon e_questioned" title=":?"><span class="e__">:?</span></span><br /><br /> There are other options out there, and I think most of them provide some level of free functionality - you'd only start paying once you need to process squillions of transactions, and at that point it would most likely work out much better to pay for it and better organise the business.<br /><br /> ERP seems to work best (only work?) if you embrace it from the ground up, though. Ill conceived implementation have a tendency to break companies: <a href="http://higheredbcs.wiley.com/legacy/college/turban/0471229679/add_text/ch08/fowmeyer.pdf">http://higheredbcs.wiley.com/legacy/college/turban/0471229679/add_text/ch08/fowmeyer.pdf</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.7&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 Apr 2016 14:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Apr 2016 19:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.8">41719.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_7" target="_self">41719.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Remind me to never go into business.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.8&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">13 Apr 2016 18:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Apr 2016 19:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.9">41719.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_7" target="_self">41719.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for looking into it, and sort of verifying what I am seeing on cost. It looks inexpensive, but the monthly or annual fees per user are pretty significant. Apparently, this is pretty common in accounting software, although I am not really sure why.<br /><br /> Accounting software does not need to change all that often, or it seems like it. <br /><br /> While in a perfect world, software would be precisely tuned to how I work, in reality, I use software every day that is made for many and adjust the way I work to deal with it. Great Plains used to be a pretty good package at a reasonable price - until MS bought it.<br /><br /> Anyway, will continue to look into it and maybe post some examples of monthly cost / features in case anyone is curious.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.9&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">13 Apr 2016 19:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Apr 2016 14:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.10">41719.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_9" target="_self">41719.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'd certainly be interested - I have an exam on this stuff (well, related to it anyway) in a little over a week! </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.10&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">15 Apr 2016 14:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Apr 2016 18:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.11">41719.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_10" target="_self">41719.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It gets tricky as you go up in feature sets.<br /><br /> When I look at these things from a "sales man" perspective, it is really handy to have the information in one place, but also there are conversations and "explorations" that you have with customers that would drive most accountants and production managers crazy. While the ultimate goal is to try to lead the customers toward standard products, it isn't always possible, and sometimes non standard payment terms are important.<br /><br /> From a "production control" and "service department" perspective, it is really useful to know part numbers, drawings, sub assemblies, assemblies and how it fits together. Of course one of the challenges is that there are multiple valuations for any item:<br /> - What was paid for the parts when purchased in low quantity (1- 10)<br /> - What was paid for the parts when purchased in volume (100 - 1000 at a time)<br /> - Cost to store in inventory<br /> - Labor to assemble to its current state<br /> - Tax value<br /> - value due to aging and obscelescence<br /> - price that is being used to transfer it from one internal department to another<br /> - retail or wholesale price to the end customer as a complete "product"<br /> - retail or wholesale price to the end customer as a spare part<br /> - FIFO<br /> - LIFO<br /> - Other stuff I have not thought of<br /> - cash accounting approaches to life<br /> - accrual accounting approaches to life<br /> - sales tax value (which in the US varies wildly, even town to town within the same state)<br /><br /> I am trying to move my mind from the engineering and sales side into the accounting / production side to really start grasping this stuff, and it isn't all that straightforward.<br /><br /> Good luck on the test.<br /><br /> Harry<br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.11&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41719_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41719_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">15 Apr 2016 14:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Apr 2016 14:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.12">41719.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41719.3#a41719_11" target="_self">41719.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Another area that gets tricky is customer support vs production commitments.<br /><br /> There is a lot of push to absolutely minimize inventory, and just stock the absolute minimum of parts to build something. At the same time, customers that have purchased products, especially for production machinery, want very fast repairs. A down system could stop their entire production line, so there is pressure to complete a repair in 2 - 4 hours, with big penalties for each hour after.<br /><br /> This makes it very interesting for the "existing down customer" need vs "production commitment to delivery new equipment" when a part is sitting in inventory, now double committed, or might even be on an existing, built machine, nearly ready to ship out the door.<br /><br /> What is the value of a part that can be purchased for $20 each, minimum purchase quantity 100 each only, you have only 1 in stock, but need 3 ?<br /><br /> I have no idea, but it feels like $ 2000 / 3 = nearly $800 each.<br /><br /> Harry<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Apr 2016 14:49 by HARRYN</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41719.12&return_msg=41719.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41719.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41719.13" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>