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Trump is an idiot, but unfortunately there is a noticeable percentage of Americans who are also idiots and who cannot see how dangerous some of the crap is that he's spouting. That is why he has some support. Thankfully, I also believe that a majority of Americans are intelligent enough to recognise him for the unpleasant and dangerous turd that he is.</div> <p>Thanks, Mr. Expert. Idiots are worldwide. Britain's got them, America's got them, Russia's got them... nobody is immune.<br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">I also believe that a majority of Americans are intelligent enough</div> <p>That's where your math is completely wrong.<br /><br /> America didn't realise what a dangerous turd obama is, that's why we are where we are. Now that I know what an expert pundit you really are, how about a piece on Bernie Sanders?</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.27&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 02:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 10:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.28">41641.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.25">41641.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">the current incumbent is clearly a younger fitter man if this really matters.</div> <p>Right. He smokes cigarettes. Obviously, a moron.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.28&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 08:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 13:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.29">41641.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_27" target="_self">41641.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's telling that instead of attacking the arguments you can't help yourself from attacking the person making it.<br /> <br /> Mainly it tells us that you're a cunt.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Dec 2015 08:38 by KOSWIX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.29&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.29"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 10:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 13:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.30">41641.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_28" target="_self">41641.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Really? Oh no! <br /><br /> You just seem to be flailing a bit in this thread. Lots of seemingly-random critical opinions but have you got a coherent position on any of it?<br /><br /> Is Trump your favoured candidate for the Republicans? Do you think he'll make better policies than his competition and the Democrats? Are you able to acknowledge that your ideas that "we" all like Clinton are false? This just doesn't seem like much of a discussion so far, that's all. I realise that might be hard since you seem to have decided to be a lone voice of right-wing America in a somewhat left-leaning UK forum (and the UK's <em>right</em> is still a bit left of your Democrat party) but otherwise what's the point?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.30&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.30"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 13:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 14:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">31 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.31">41641.31</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_29" target="_self">41641.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What arguments? You don't like Trump because he has shitty hair, calls it as he sees it and isn't a leftie? Because he has a lot of money, isn't a politician and his views don't match yours? Fuck you, you politically correct asshat. You don't know shit from Shinola and you don't know fuck all about American politics. It would require a true twat to think he sees one, but there you go thinking again.<br /><br /> For the record, I think Trump is a bloviating buffoon in most cases; I had a boss that talked just like him and he was a nickel holding up a dollar. BUT, if Trump can get this country moving again, can cut through the red tape of Washington and actually get things done; if he can get Congress to stop sitting on their hands whilst they are figuring out a way to suck more money out of the hands of Americans; if he can restore American pride instead of being an apologist all of the time, then fine - I'll be for him.<br /><br /> There's lots of time though, and a couple of the other candidates will likely be a better fit. The problem is here, unfortunately: It isn't about who is the best fit for the job, but who can <em>get elected</em>. It is an unfortunate turn of events, been happening this way for years. What do you think the chances would be - today - that our greatest president, Abraham Lincoln - would be able to be elected <em>today</em>? Zero, because he was gangly, a bit odd-looking and probably would have looked worse on TV.<br /><br /> The best person for POTUS probably would never even want the damn job. Tell me this: Has there ever been a Republican, or a candidate from any other party than the Democratic party or anyone right of centre that you have liked?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.31&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 14:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 14:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">32 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.32">41641.32</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_31" target="_self">41641.31</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Classic cunt behaviour there. Invent a term ('politically correct'), then use it to dismiss arguments without having to engage your brain. Well done. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.32&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_33"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_33"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 14:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 14:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">33 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.33">41641.33</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_31" target="_self">41641.31</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/OGQSd6d.jpg" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.33&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.33"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_34"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_34"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 14:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 17:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">34 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.34">41641.34</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_30" target="_self">41641.30</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Is Trump your favoured candidate for the Republicans?</div> <p>No.<br /><br /><strong>Quote:</strong> </p> <div class="quote">Do you think he'll make better policies than his competition and the Democrats?</div> <p>It would be nigh to impossible for him to not do so.<br /><br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">This just doesn't seem like much of a discussion so far, that's all. I realise that might be hard since you seem to have decided to be a lone voice of right-wing America in a somewhat left-leaning UK forum (and the UK's <em>right</em> is still a bit left of your Democrat party) but otherwise what's the point?</div> <p>It isn't much of a discussion, because this decidedly left-handed forum wants it that way. Perhaps you all aren't actually interested in discussion at all, maybe it is just comforting to post anti-candidate material as entertainment and you can all agree with one another and have a good guffaw. Well, I was always taught that if two people always agree, one is not necessary.<br /><br /> So far, All I have heard is pretty much that Trump is no good because he has bad hair, wants to close our borders to Muslims until we figure out a way to properly vet them and not let terrorists into the country. I agree with that. My uncle could not come here in the 70s from England because he was told that he couldn't come in unless he could prove he wouldn't take an American's job away. Now we have a border like Swiss cheese, with people from any country whatsoever here, many illegally. I support<em> legal immigration</em>, by people whose backgrounds have been investigated thoroughly.<br /><br /> Trump calls things as he sees them; one thing that he is forcing is dialogue. Candidates from both sides now are going to have to address issues he raises, like it or not. He will have to defend his positions and they will have to stand up to criticism, but other candidates also will be forced to make a stand. That, in and of itself, is a Good Thing.<br /> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.34&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.34"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_35"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_35"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">15 Dec 2015 14:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Dec 2015 14:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">35 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.35">41641.35</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.26#a41641_32" target="_self">41641.32</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Right. About as clever as using snide and sarcastic comments instead of forming a valid rebuttal. Weak.<br /><br /> <Agent Smith> I am wasting my time with you. </Agent Smith></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.35&return_msg=41641.26" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.35"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41641.36" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>