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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.0&return_msg=41641.158"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.131">131–140</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.141">141–150</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.151">151–160</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.161">161–170</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.201">201–207</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41641.158">Dump Trump</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41641_158_207_10"> <a name="a41641_158"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_158"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">28 Apr 2016 18:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Apr 2016 22:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">158 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.158">41641.158</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.157">41641.157</a></div> <div class="message_body"> He only hires the best...<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/paul-manafort-donald-trump-campaign-past-clients">http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/paul-manafort-donald-trump-campaign-past-clients</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.158&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.158"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_159"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_159"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">28 Apr 2016 22:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 00:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">159 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.159">41641.159</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.156">41641.156</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.156">Tiger Blowfish Liver (DSMITHHFX)</a></div> <div class="quote">"His position on gun rights is far closer to mainstream America thinking than Hillary, and he foolishly backed down on this position, as it was actually one of the the keys to his backing."<br /><br /><a href="http://time.com/4173116/gun-control-barack-obama-polls/">http://time.com/4173116/gun-control-barack-obama-polls/</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm">http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.people-press.org/2015/08/13/continued-bipartisan-support-for-expanded-background-checks-on-gun-sales/">http://www.people-press.org/2015/08/13/continued-bipartisan-support-for-expanded-background-checks-on-gun-sales/</a></div> <p>Virtually all of the significant aspects of the polls you cite are already existing law. The articles you are pointing to are just fear factor polls to work toward gun ownership bans by tricking people into thinking that we live in the wild west. It is well documented that Bloomberg and a few billionaires are funding news articles like this to be written.<br /><br /> Guess what their other big boogey man is? Sugar. They want to tax a 25 cent can of pepsi with a 36 cent tax, in addition to the existing sales tax, can recycle fee, etc. My guess is that pepsi and coke didn't pay him off (buy his over priced advertising) so he is trying to blackmail them)<br /><br /> You can't legally just buy or sell a gun on a whim, the area is heavily managed and monitored, and the penalties are quite severe with life long consequences, even though the products are "legal" and "fundamentally protected by the US Constitution". They are actually MORE protected than the right to religious freedom and the right to vote.<br /><br /> On the other hand, if you buy or sell heroine on the street, a substance which is a federal offense to posses under most any situation, and kills nearly all of the people associated with it, you can "turn your life around" and get off fairly easily.<br /><br /> If you ask most any legal gun owner, they also support the core ideas of making sure that gun ownership and use is done safely. The NRA and similar organizations do more to support training and safe gun ownership than anyone.<br /><br /> The DNC actually is actually making gun ownership "less safe", because it makes people think that this right will be taken away (like in most countries), so it drives more gun purchases than would normally happen.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.159&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.159"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_160"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_160"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">28 Apr 2016 22:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 00:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">160 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.160">41641.160</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.155">41641.155</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.155">Tiger Blowfish Liver (DSMITHHFX)</a></div> <div class="quote">Sanders and Trump supporters have been fist-fighting. Just saying.</div> <p>Fist fighting and politics are long time associations. Sanders supporters are strongly anti-Clinton as well.<br /><br /> I could see either Sanders or Trump as being Candidates I could vote for, as they both actually carry similar concepts. They are both really "independents", or perhaps just agnostic about the RNC or DNC being correct on many topics.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.160&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.160"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_161"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_161"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 00:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2016 00:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">161 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.161">41641.161</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.150">41641.150</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">he handed US foreign policy on a silver platter to Dick Cheney, probably because 9-11 scared the hell out of him and he just couldn't face it.</div> <p>I'd like to see the facts behind that statement.<br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Sanders and Trump have both traded on widespread disaffection in the American hinterland first manifested by the tea party, the sense that the 'social contract', such as it was, has been abandoned and the middle class (now have-nots) with it. There's a lot of economic misery and fear afoot. Dangerous times.</div> <p>You think "widespread disaffection is limited to the "American hinterland", given that "There's a lot of economic misery and fear afoot"? You think that is limited to the middle class and rural areas? Please explain. How is there disaffection in one place yet misery and fear - lots? Aren't they both country-wide?<br /><br /> Trump has WAY more than Hillary's propensity to play the femme card, anyone has - he just hasn't used any of it yet. Clinton IS the war on women, but there is so much more negative to her, defeating her should be like shooting fish in a barrel.<br /><br /> Jason Fuller:<br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Few can deny her experience in government or her credentials.<br /> *(Actually, I can. What did she actually accomplish, other than eliminating four Americans in a foreign country?)<br /> <div class="content-list-component mt-paragraph text"> <p>But what do credentials matter when you are lacking in judgement? Credentials are fine, but credentials do not illustrate a person’s behavior, attitude, or ability to perform. Sanders is right to question Hillary Clinton’s judgement on critical issues. Her previous votes to support expanded US involvement in the Middle East, as well as her strong financial ties to corrupt banks and corporations, clearly demonstrate that she does not have the integrity or decision-making capability we need in a truly strong Commander-in-Chief. Hillary Clinton is unable to make good decisions the first time; she even at one time <a href="http://www.alipac.us/f9/hillary-clinton-border-needs-wall-21361-print/">supported Donald Trump’s border wall</a> before adopting her currently <a href="https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/">more moderate tone</a> on immigration policy. And while it’s certainly progress that she has <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/8/bernie-sanders-vermont-senator-hits-hillary-clinto/">seemingly “evolved”</a> on so many issues over the years, the President of the United States often has just <strong>ONE</strong> chance to make the right decision on critical issues of national and economic security. Do we really want to elect someone who has proven time and time again that she does not have the capacity to do this?</p> </div> </div> <p>*My comment<br /> </p> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 29 Apr 2016 00:45 by FIXRMAN</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.161&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.161"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_162"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_162"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 00:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2016 06:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">162 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.162">41641.162</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.158#a41641_159" target="_self">41641.159</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So, you're not an addict, you can quit anytime you want to.<br /> <br /> Is that your position?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.162&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.162"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_163"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_163"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 00:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Harry (HARRYN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2016 06:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">163 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.163">41641.163</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.151">41641.151</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">It is useful to think about how voters feel vs how party insiders and billionaire funders feel about US political positions.</div> <p>Harry, where is your source on the above? Are you the party insider or the billionaire funder?<br /><br /> </p> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Personally, I think she will be very effective if elected, because she is so well connected.</div> <p>Well-connected didn't seem to serve her well as SOS. How will it translate to a higher position? Tell me: What did she accomplish as SOS that makes her more qualified than anyone else to be POTUS? What world leader will listen to her based on her accomplishments?</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.163&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.163"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_164"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_164"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2016 17:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">164 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.164">41641.164</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Here's one canuckian pundit who thinks Trump could win general election:<br /> <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/04/28/its-now-clinton-versus-trump-and-trump-could-win-walkom.html">http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/04/28/its-now-clinton-versus-trump-and-trump-could-win-walkom.html</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.164&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.164"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_165"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_165"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2016 11:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2016 19:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">165 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.165">41641.165</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.158#a41641_164" target="_self">41641.164</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Trump is, quite frankly, a bloviating buffoon. But is he saying anything different from obama, or clintoon - perhaps what she wants to say, even? Well, except for the femme card bit, but even the most staunch Democrat would have to truthfully admit she plays the femme card, a lot.<br /><br /> It is too soon to say anything is in the can, except for American politics. I'd like to see our campaigns not start two years in advance; 90 days should be enough for anybody to get a political platform out and for the voters (Electoral College) to decide the outcome.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.165&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.165"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_166"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_166"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2016 21:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 May 2016 13:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">166 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.166">41641.166</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.158#a41641_165" target="_self">41641.165</a></div> <div class="message_body"> "But is he saying anything different from obama, or clintoon"<br /><br /> They never said the kind of scary things he's saying, and I very much doubt Hillary would even think, let alone say. I don't like Hillary, but I like Trump and for that matter Cruz a whole lot less.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.166&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.166"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41641_167"></a><div class="message" id="message_41641_167"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 1 May 2016 13:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 May 2016 13:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">167 of 207</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.167">41641.167</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41641.158#a41641_166" target="_self">41641.166</a></div> <div class="message_body"> obamacare isn't scary? "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor; if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance" - that wasn't scary? He's a liar. For that matter, Hillary Clinton is a liar. You don't find her keeping classified Emails scary, and the fact she lied about it? You don't find the fact that she refused to protect "her good friend" in Benghazi scary, and that she lied about it?<br /><br /> I think some things are true: You don't understand what the word "scary" means, or scary is radically different to you than what many other people think; you support left-leaning politics in all forms no matter what, or possibly don't really pay much attention to what political candidates say unless it it differs from what you want to hear.<br /><br /> Didn't you lot in Canada recently vote for a political outsider, a non-connected, unproven guy?<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41641.167&return_msg=41641.158" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41641.167"> <span class="rating">-1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41641.168" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>