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href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.11">11–20</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.31">31–33</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41626.4">Turntables</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41626_4_33_10"> <a name="a41626_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 15:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4">41626.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="http://www.tesco.com/direct/ion-vinyl-forever-turntable-to-computer-interface/230-5469.prd?skuId=230-5469&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-bg-_-230-5469&gclid=Cj0KEQiA96CyBRDk5qOtp5vz8LkBEiQA6wx8MLNjkde2vI5i2cUW7cLNgbxAbwnqR-gVA1FiCQbuDfYaAo6R8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds">http://www.tesco.com/direct/ion-vinyl-forever-turntable-to-computer-interface/230-5469.prd?skuId=230-5469&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-bg-_-230-5469&gclid=Cj0KEQiA96CyBRDk5qOtp5vz8LkBEiQA6wx8MLNjkde2vI5i2cUW7cLNgbxAbwnqR-gVA1FiCQbuDfYaAo6R8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.4&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 19:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.5">41626.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> If money's no object... <a href="http://www.oobject.com/category/most-extreme-turntables/">these <span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__">:'-D</span></span></span></span> <br /><br /> I know the Clear Audio one was going for £14000, but I can't tell which'd be the £150000 one. </a><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.5&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 14:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.6">41626.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.2">41626.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I can get them online through Amazon, actually. I want a direct drive turntable rather than belt drive and an S- shaped tone arm. A long, S-shaped arm is better. <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":-P"><span class="e__">:-P</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.6&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 16:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.7">41626.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_5" target="_self">41626.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Don't they have anything a bit more up-scale? <span class="emoticon e_rabbit" title=":-B"><span class="e__">:-B</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.7&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 02:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.8">41626.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The classic SL1200 is a bit of a tank, though I doubt you'll find any that haven't been worked at least a bit!<br /><br /> It does very much come down to how much you want to spend, and what your expectations are.<br /><br /> A few points on this:<br /> - do you want something with a built-in phono preamp?<br /> - if so, do you want the phono pre-amp to be "bypassable"?<br /> - would you want something with a USB DAC so that you can record from the TT onto your PC?<br /><br /> Rega are a very decent choice, with models at various price points. I've recently looked into getting a TT (haven't made any decisions yet), and I considered:<br /> - AT-LP120USB<br /> - Teac TN-300 (USB, in Cherry - oooh purdy!)<br /><br /> I also looked at the Pro-Ject options, but I was put off by reports of excessive rumble - whether that's still an issue or not, I don't know.<br /><br /> I ended up looking at the AT and the Teac because they were both complete solutions and came with reasonable styli; I wouldn't really intend to faff around a lot, spend time adjusting counterweights etc. I also thought the built-in USB DAC may be useful if I decide to digitise my dad's vinyl.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.8&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 02:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Nov 2015 19:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.9">41626.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_8" target="_self">41626.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks, Serg. It does not have to have a preamp, I have two receivers capable of using an old fashioned RCA input. USB DAC is fine, but I really want an Old Skool turntable, direct drive. The Audio Technica AT-LP240/USB pretty much has it all.<br /><br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.9&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 08:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 12:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.10">41626.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_6" target="_self">41626.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Any particular reason why you're after direct drive and an S-shaped tone arm?<br /><br /> Just curious really. All of the really outstanding turntables at all budget points since the 60s have been belt driven and the vast majority have opted for a straight tone arm - even firms like SME who produced a few snaky ones over the years.<br /><br /> I don't imagine that at the budget point of the Technics there will be world of difference between various models in sound quality, particularly if the signal is going into a receiver rather than a dedicated amp. so is it the appearance or convenience or what?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.10&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 12:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 16:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.11">41626.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_10" target="_self">41626.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was always an audiophile wannabe, as a young kid. Most of my audio equipment was hand-picked as a kid - from the trash. My best "find" was a Knight International Model 333 [tube] receiver with Tuning Eye; while not high end by any means, for a 14 year old kid with 45 bucks in the bank who was using a given-to-him Montgomery Ward console stereo, to me it was like owning a Marantz.<br /><br /> I took that console apart, liberated the Garrard turntable from it and mounted it in a plinth from another turntable; the speakers I kept for a future project, never achieved. I rarely had matching speakers until I did a snow-shoveling job for a guy who gave me a set of speakers he couldn't be bothered to try to sell. He felt bad that I had shoveled a 35 foot driveway of 30-some inches of snow with the help of youngest brother (I paid brother) and he wanted to sweeten the deal.<br /><br /> When I finally got the big raise in the mid-eighties, I went out and bought a Sansui (remember them?) system that sounded great - but kept blowing tweeters at moderate levels. I gave up, later got married and listened to what I thought was good music from CDs. They did sound "better", but only because speakers had improved over the years, even cheap ones.<br /><br /> Later, I wanted to get a DVD player so we could watch movies as a family. I bought a three year-old Pioneer AV receiver from a work friend cheap, also a 4 head stereo VCR. It sounded much better when a going out of business sale introduced me to Mirage speakers. Another sale found me with a Mirage center channel, yet another yielded a set of Bigger Mirage A-channel speakers. What? Now a full matched set?<br /><br /> What's all this to do with a turntable? Since I've kept the vinyl, I want a way to play it. I haven't had a turntable since probably 1996, even that was from a combination system my wife-to-be bought me for Christmas. I will mate it to the Harmon Kardon youngest brother sent me from one of his whacko customers in Florida who upgraded. I can afford a good turntable now, after many years of denying the extravagance. I want a good, solid turntable - one that is durable, doesn't vary in speed and looks good. Direct drive means lower maintenance and true speed. The S-arm is probably mostly for aesthetics, as I cannot find any source that makes a definitive case for one over the other.<br /><br /> My first turntable (record player - and not a Close N' Play) was given to me when I was two years old in 1965. It was a Majorette that played 16-78 RPM records. Internal three-inch speaker and fibreboard case, I was the shizzle at two. I played records continuously, wearing out needles in mere weeks, much to the surprise of the owner of the record shop who was convinced I was breaking them. I could change the needles myself at three, luckily. Diamond stylus upgrades were necessary by then. <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":-P"><span class="e__">:-P</span></span> <br /><br /> Don't you think I deserve a good turntable at this point? <span class="emoticon e_nod" title="(nod)"><span class="e__">(nod)</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.11&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 16:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Nov 2015 03:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.12">41626.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_11" target="_self">41626.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Don't you think I deserve a good turntable at this point?</div> Absolutely. That's why I wondered about the Technics SL1200.<br /><br /> It's always had a reputation for being a good quality deck. My brother owned one in the mid 70s and if I remember correctly it was very nicely built piece of kit with genuine hi-fidelity qualities. Since I haven't sat down and compared dozens of alternatives, I can hardly claim any expertise so if it sounds good to you that's the main thing - along with it being what you want!<br /><br /> My setup is fairly vintage: a Systemdek 2X, Rega RB300, Goldring 1042 combo through a modified Aura Evolution amp and a pair of home built transmission line speakers. The cartridge is only a few years old and the deck's been serviced. I use it just about every day.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.12&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 20:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 22:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.13">41626.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4#a41626_12" target="_self">41626.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What do you listen to?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.13&return_msg=41626.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41626.14" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>