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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.0&return_msg=41498.114"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.91">91–100</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.101">101–110</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.111">111–120</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.121">121–123</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41498.114">win10 excitement</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41498_114_123_10"> <a name="a41498_114"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_114"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 23:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2015 05:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">114 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114">41498.114</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.112">41498.112</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Haven't checked event viewer lately, but there wasn't much in as far as I recall. <br /> <br /> As for bios settings, for a laptop that's supposed to be customisable, it's surprisingly locked down. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.114&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.114"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_115"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_115"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 09:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 09:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">115 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.115">41498.115</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_114" target="_self">41498.114</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I discovered that MS balanced a bowl of water on the door for home network users upgrading to 10 who don't use homegroups but naively followed the recommended 'use your MS account details' for an ID and password.<br /><br /> It may not hit that many users, but from Windows 8 onwards if you use an MS account to log on and you want to view shares on other PCs on a home network that are also at 8 or above, Windows imposes a sort of bodged domain network model. You are required to enter an ID and password to view shares, your 'domain' is the name of your PC, and it royally screws things like network drives mapped to shares.<br /><br /> I never noticed this before because I had a mixture of boxes at 7 and 8. It's a pain to work round in 8 and 8.1 but relatively easy to switch to a local user in 10 <em>if you know what the problem is and that this is the way to fix it</em>. It wasn't something I'd ever seen publicised, and judging from the other bewildered users floundering around with half-arsed fixes, I'm not alone.<br /><br /> The issue is compounded because the 'join a domain or workgroup' wizard is broken for many users but in a way that gives the impression that something other than the wizard is broken - i.e. when you check the radio button to indicate that this is mainly a home PC and not business, the wizard hangs for a bit, tells you to restart (without asking what workgroup of domain you want), sets your work group back to the default 'workgroup' and when you restart you find that it's defaulted back to 'this PC is part of a business network'.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.115&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.115"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_116"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_116"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 10:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 12:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">116 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.116">41498.116</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_115" target="_self">41498.115</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How does it work if you use a homegroup?<br /><br /> Can't say i've noticed any changes in how the network is handled from 8.1. When I did the upgrade install I'm sure my mapped drive to my Raspberry Pi showed up as normal <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.116&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.116"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_117"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_117"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 13:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 16:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">117 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.117">41498.117</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_116" target="_self">41498.116</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I couldn't say - I've never used a homegroup<br /><br /> As for the mapped drive thing, I assume you weren't running Windows 8 on your pi. The situation arises when a windows machine tries to see shares on another windows machine, both machines are at 8 or above and the one you're logged on to is using a Microsoft account (koswix@outlook.com etc.) as a user ID.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.117&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.117"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_118"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_118"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 16:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 17:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">118 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.118">41498.118</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_117" target="_self">41498.117</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah. What if both have logged in with an Ms account. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.118&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.118"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_119"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_119"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 17:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 18:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">119 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.119">41498.119</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_118" target="_self">41498.118</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Again, I don't know because I haven't tried.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.119&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.119"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_120"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_120"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 18:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 21:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">120 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.120">41498.120</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_119" target="_self">41498.119</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is there a reason you don't use home groups? I switched it on as soon I got windows 7, it makes windows to Windows networking a lot easier/more reliable. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.120&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.120"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_121"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_121"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 22:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 23:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">121 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.121">41498.121</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_120" target="_self">41498.120</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Because I had XP and Linux running with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (and a bit of Android and whatever crap all the other toys use) and it all worked fine. Then when I rebuilt the XP box and put Windows 7 on it, it still worked fine, so I didn't bother with homegroups because I didn't think it was a good idea to poke at a network that worked. I only had a problem when I put Windows 10 onto the Windows boxes and the account thing kicked in.<br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.121&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.121"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_122"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_122"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 8 Aug 2015 08:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Aug 2015 09:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">122 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.122">41498.122</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114#a41498_115" target="_self">41498.115</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I just rebooted my laptop, first time since installing WinX. My usual password didn't log me in. Realised it had decided to use my Hotmail as the user account. I use KeePass for Hotmail passwords so had to find my silly long password on my phone.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.122&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.122"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_123"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_123"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 8 Aug 2015 08:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">123 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.123">41498.123</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And I noticed some strange things happening like the icons in the taskbar being hidden my the Cort Ana and task buttons but that was due to still having Start8 installed.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.123&return_msg=41498.114" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.123"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>