Want an AV. Receiver but don't want surround sound - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.0&return_msg=41343.17"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.21">21–27</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41343.17">Want an AV. Receiver but don't want surround sound</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41343_17_27_10"> <a name="a41343_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 5 Mar 2015 11:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Mar 2015 11:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17">41343.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.16">41343.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What, Kos is a VIP? Pffffff</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.17&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Mar 2015 11:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Mar 2015 15:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.18">41343.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_17" target="_self">41343.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I joined when I got my amp. Meant I got whatever percent they were offering at the time, plus another £10 and it was on sale. I don't think the guys behind the counter (I actually went into a real shop!!) appreciated all the reductions I got.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.18&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 5 Mar 2015 13:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Mar 2015 15:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.19">41343.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.15">41343.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Like Ant says, I'm a VIP so get 10% off on clearance items.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.19&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 6 Mar 2015 17:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Mar 2015 23:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.20">41343.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_19" target="_self">41343.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Stop dithering and get some beats <span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__">:@</span></span><br /><br /> Also, I've been put off Onkyo because of past overheating and HDMI board issues - but they might've fixed that nowadays...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.20&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 6 Mar 2015 23:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 15:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.21">41343.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_20" target="_self">41343.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So you're saying get the yamaha? Are they any good? I thought they made motorbikes. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.21&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 15:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 16:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.22">41343.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_21" target="_self">41343.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think they make so many things, even they've probably lost track - musical instruments, motorbikes, ATVs, electronics... Mind you at least they're not Samsung, those guys make rather large boats (e.g.: ferries) as well <span class="emoticon e_horror" title=":-&"><span class="e__">:-&</span></span> <br /><br /> Anyway in terms of being a fanboi, I tend to prefer Yamaha to Onkyo and DM (Denon-Marantz, same mothership); but if you go quite a bit further up, then Anthem and a few others rear their head as well.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.22&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 16:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.23">41343.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_22" target="_self">41343.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I just want my music to sound good and be able to hear the dialogue in 5.1 sources, where both sky box and raspberry pi fuck up the down mix so much I have to adjust the volume every two minutes. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.23&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 17:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.24">41343.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_23" target="_self">41343.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, pretty much any current-ish AVR should be able to down-mix 5.1 or 7.1 or whatever into a 2.0 output, plus apply any "creative" EQ / effects you may want - like dynamic volume which makes quiet bits louder and loud bits quieter, good for watching poorly mastered/encoded stuff or late night viewing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.24&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 16:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.25">41343.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_22" target="_self">41343.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is Harmon Kardon now crap? They once made good receivers and such but now I think they are just off-sourced Chinese crap.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.25&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 17:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.26">41343.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.17#a41343_25" target="_self">41343.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hmmh, it depends... they did recently make some rather good two-channel (stereo) receivers, the HK990 and HK3390 of which the former was quite remarkable, but their more recent surround AVRs are a bit "meh" - totally decent, but none of them made me think "yeah, I'll take that over the equivalent Yamaha". Mind you this is all from reading online and some very very brief hands-on, so I may well be wrong!<br /><br /> To be honest, what really puts me off Onkyo is the slew of HDMI board failures and overheating issues that they've had with their AVRs, which has kept happening for many generations. I also prefer the more natural sound of Yamaha - each manufacturer does do some degree of sound signature tuning on their devices, and the amp/processing tech that each of them choose also has some degree of impact on that. In an ideal world they should all sound the same and not "colour" the sound in any way, but we don't live in that ideal world.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.26&return_msg=41343.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41343.27" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>