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It is messy and takes a long time, but even a bumbershoot will do.<br /><br /> I'd say at this point this thread has gone long past a useful purpose, that being gun laws. You are now reducing it to taunting and ridicule. Gun laws: We have them. They aren't good enough and/or aren't being followed.<br /><br /> I won't convince anyone they should have or want to have guns, and you folks will not convince me to give up my right to have or own them - not that I want to do either. It is an impasse.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Oct 2014 02:10 by FIXRMAN</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.95&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.95"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_96"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_96"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">15 Oct 2014 02:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Oct 2014 15:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">96 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.96">41226.96</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_95" target="_self">41226.95</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Kinda what I said some time ago. But it's not an impasse because there's no meaningful dispute.<br /><br /> We operate on different moral guages. Who's to say which is right? Morality is more relative than any of us would care to think.<br /><br /> The common ground is in agreeing that nations and communities have the right to their own moral principles and supporting legislation. <em>A chacun son goût, </em>as they say.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.96&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.96"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_97"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_97"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">15 Oct 2014 15:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Oct 2014 15:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">97 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.97">41226.97</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_96" target="_self">41226.96</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No, actually you are right. I am not disputing we have some problems with our gun laws. They need to be followed.<br /><br /> The discussion got sidetracked to assertions that Americans should give up their guns and guns should be made illegal. Whether or not I agree in immaterial because it isn't up to me. I will say this though, I do not believe giving up rights for safety is a guarantee for more safety - it could mean less.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.97&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.97"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_98"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_98"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">20 Oct 2014 21:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">98 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.98">41226.98</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_97" target="_self">41226.97</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You know, one of the issues here in the U.S. that nobody seems to take account of is that here in the U.S., another reason people have guns is that we live in a much more dangerous and wild environment than folks in the U.K. do.<br /><br /> Here we have dogs, wolves, opossum, moose, bears, mountain lions, coyotes, crocodiles, alligators. Dog attacks alone cost about a billion dollars a year due to injuries and deaths. Even deer cause lots of vehicular damage and about 100 deaths per year. Have to cull the herds.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.98&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.98"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_99"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_99"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">20 Oct 2014 21:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2014 01:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">99 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.99">41226.99</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_98" target="_self">41226.98</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Not too dissimilar to many farmers in the UK legally owning guns. <br /> <br /> I imagine most people on here wouldn't disagree that owning guns for protection against wild animals is a reasonable thing. <br /> <br /> It's the owning guns for protection against other people that the disagreement more than likely lies. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.99&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.99"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_100"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_100"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2014 00:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2014 03:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">100 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.100">41226.100</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_99" target="_self">41226.99</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Then they need to stop acting like wild animals!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.100&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.100"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_101"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_101"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2014 01:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2014 01:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">101 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.101">41226.101</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.95#a41226_100" target="_self">41226.100</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can i hear an Amen?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.101&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.101"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_102"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_102"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: DeannaG (CYBATRON)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2014 05:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2014 17:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">102 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.102">41226.102</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.74">41226.74</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm a horror movie and show freak myself. <span class="emoticon e_smile" title=":)"><span class="e__">:)</span></span><br /><br /> I agree. You don't have to kill to protect, but if they've got the means to shoot back, I'll be damned if I'm giving them the chance to do it.<br /><br /> I haven't been prepping for the worst and to protect my family so someone of ill intent can break into my home, hurt those I love, and take what I've saved up for them.<br /><br /> I won't kill if I don't have to, but I have to, I will. I'm sure I'm not the only who feels that way these days. Especially with the state of our country and the economy, and it's not just our country having problems.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.102&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.102"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_103"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_103"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: DeannaG (CYBATRON)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2014 05:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2014 20:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">103 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.103">41226.103</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.75">41226.75</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">I don't miss. Ask the squirrel. <span class="emoticon e_wink" title=";-)"><span class="e__">;-)</span></span> </div> <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":-D"><span class="e__">:-D</span></span><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 22 Oct 2014 05:51 by CYBATRON</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.103&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.103"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_104"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_104"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: DeannaG (CYBATRON)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2014 05:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2014 17:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">104 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.104">41226.104</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77">41226.77</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Unfortunately, a lot aren't smart enough to fear the sound of a gun. They're where a lot of the problems are born. They think the owner won't actually shoot them. Sometimes they're right, but sometimes they're wrong, and like you said, bad shit happens. I'm of the opinion it's they're own damn fault for breaking in in the first place, and in the second not getting out quick at the sound of that gun.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.104&return_msg=41226.95" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.104"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41226.105" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>