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Unless the intruder or criminal is out of their mind on something even the sight of a gun is sometimes enough to change their minds. Imagine yourself sneaking into a dark house and hearing the sound of someone cocking their weapon. I'd know right away that if I continued bad shit was going to happen and think really hard about what was about to happen.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.77&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.77"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_78"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_78"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 12:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 12:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">78 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.78">41226.78</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_77" target="_self">41226.77</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The key point is you never shoot anything you aren't happy killing, though. Yes, shooting them in the chest may not kill them but I'd not take the odds, personally.<br /><br /> Don't get me wrong, I'm not even that anti-gun and I've definitely own them if they were legal, but I don't really like the idea of all my neighbors owning them so I prefer the legality being that nobody can.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.78&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.78"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_79"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_79"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 12:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 12:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">79 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.79">41226.79</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_78" target="_self">41226.78</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I don't think there was ever, or will ever be a time when someone in a self defense position would be happy hurting someone. To me it wouldn't matter what the weapon was, I don't like the idea of hurting anyone but I'd do it with whatever weapon I could get if it meant protecting my family.<br /><br /> That's part of the idea behind concealed carry. You have to assume everyone is carrying a gun and it should make you think before you decide to carry out a crime on that person.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.79&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.79"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_80"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_80"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 14:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 16:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">80 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.80">41226.80</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_79" target="_self">41226.79</a></div> <div class="message_body"> 'Course it doesn't take away the latent fear that someone potentially concealing a gun also has the potential to go completely postal.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.80&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.80"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_81"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_81"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 16:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 19:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">81 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.81">41226.81</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_80" target="_self">41226.80</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Don't make me use the "Guns don't kill people" speech on you mister!<br /><br /> If I were going to kill someone I think it would be much more fun to chase them around with my car!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.81&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.81"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_82"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_82"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 19:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 19:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">82 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.82">41226.82</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_81" target="_self">41226.81</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I knew that was setting me up for all sorts o' crap. <span class="emoticon e_curlyhappy" title=":J"><span class="e__">:J</span></span><br /><br /> I think that Chris Rock sketch sums it all up for me - the guns don't kill people, bullets do thing.<br /><br /> This has probably been linked and viewed to death already, but here it is:<br /><br /><iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Db0Y4qIZ4PA" style="height:360px;margin:0px auto;width:480px;"></iframe><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.82&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.82"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_83"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_83"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2014 19:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2014 20:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">83 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.83">41226.83</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_82" target="_self">41226.82</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Man CR used to be great.<br /><br /> I wonder how many guns he owns?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.83&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.83"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_84"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_84"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">11 Oct 2014 02:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Oct 2014 07:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">84 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.84">41226.84</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_82" target="_self">41226.82</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well, I am not really a Chris Rock fan, but there's a lot of truth in his routine. It is usually white whackos shooting up schools. Thank God I stay brown all year long. <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":-P"><span class="e__">:-P</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.84&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.84"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_85"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_85"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">11 Oct 2014 02:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Oct 2014 02:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">85 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.85">41226.85</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_81" target="_self">41226.81</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OK, WW.<br /><br /><iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5Wb4arvwNOw" style="height:360px;margin:0px auto;width:480px;"></iframe></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.85&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.85"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41226_86"></a><div class="message" id="message_41226_86"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">11 Oct 2014 02:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Oct 2014 07:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">86 of 177</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.86">41226.86</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41226.77#a41226_78" target="_self">41226.78</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Do you really believe that? I am not so sure.<br /><br /> I killed a squirrel the other day, intentionally. Not because I wanted to (even though I hate their destructiveness), I sort of had to. Ever had a squirrel in your house/flat? I have. It can get dicey and dangerous. They have claws and teeth. They chew on rain gutters, tree limbs and are ruining my chimney. They've taken up a nest in the Douglas fir in my front yard. I wasn't happy I killed it, rather relieved the pest was gone.<br /><br /> If they didn't make so much noise bounding across the roof (and ruining it) it would be one thing. But they are contantly digging in my grass to find nuts they haven't buried or are too stupid to remember where they are. They dig in our flower pots/beds for nuts that aren't there. If I get three more, the family is gone and I save a possible 18 more baby squirrels.<br /><br /> Squirrels have no real enemies here. A hawk will get them occasionally, but not often enough to keep populations down. I do, however, not care to fire pellets indiscriminately, so I think I will get a lethal trap and avoid problems in the future. You can kill nuisance squirrels, but shooting them is not in any way encouraged, so I will have to give it up. Trapping will do the same thing in the end and the Broad Wing may appreciate no steel in his lunch, should he find it soon enough after termination.<br /><br /> Perhaps I can train one...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41226.86&return_msg=41226.77" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41226.86"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41226.87" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>